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Santa Clara County restaurants, congregations can resume indoor service as COVID-19 cases drop

Original post made on Oct 13, 2020

Restaurants and congregations in Santa Clara County will be able to reopen for indoor service on Wednesday under a revised public health order that loosens many of the restrictions that have been in place since March.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, October 13, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Posted by Facemasks
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 13, 2020 at 4:57 pm

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Great news! But if we want to stay in orange…

We need enforcement of facemasks in public! There are WAY too many people walking around without facemasks on. Police patrols, please! Fine them the full $500!

It's sad and upsetting, to see people selfishly risk the lives of their neighbors.


Posted by Patrick Neschleba
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2020 at 6:05 pm

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This is welcome news. Absolutely essential that the community take ownership of practicing proper protocols, or else we rebound right back into red.

It goes without saying - but I’ll say it anyway: the further down we can drive this rate as a community, the more people are going to get on board with opening up the schools for on-site instruction. We all own that - not just those of us with kids in the schools. Same goes for getting youth sports going again. Let’s show that we can do this!


Posted by Steven Goldstein
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 13, 2020 at 6:19 pm

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I for one do want to if possible kill the COVID threat altogether, but that means aggressively isolating any potential infections and doing the population significant testing to establish that the virus was successfully "burned out" by it having no ability to infect new hosts.

But that appears to be off the table. So the next thing is to provide SAFE business practices. Masks, and protective public spaces that prevent the airborne particles from getting to others not infected.

What is scary is that COVID can live as long as 28 days without being disinfected. The disinfection practices are going to have to be aggressive. BUT I do see that it is feasible. My hopes are we do not replay what happened earlier this year.

It would be also strongly anticipated that a log of visitors and their activities on site be recorded for if anyone does test positive the contact tracing can be performed. BUT if that is NOT done, I would be concerned about moving forward. Please refer to the movie CONTAGION.

I have good hopes, but also grim fears.


Posted by Free the people
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2020 at 6:44 pm

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Web Link

“ Drew said there were several caveats including that the study was conducted with fixed levels of virus that likely represented the peak of a typical infection, and there was an absence of exposure to ultraviolet light, which can rapidly degrade the virus.

Humidity was kept steady at 50 percent, the study said, as increases in humidity have also been found as detrimental to the virus.”


Posted by Steven Goldstein
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 13, 2020 at 8:28 pm

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In response to Free the people you said:

““ Drew said there were several caveats including that the study was conducted with fixed levels of virus that likely represented the peak of a typical infection, and there was an absence of exposure to ultraviolet light, which can rapidly degrade the virus.”

Humidity was kept steady at 50 percent, the study said, as increases in humidity have also been found as detrimental to the virus.””

Here is that problem. The humidity in this area is typically VERY low. We are a “irrigated” desert.

In fact tomorrow we will have lesser than 50% humidity from 12pm to 10pm. And the next day will be 5am to 8pm.

You also know that in air conditioned buildings or forced heat buildings the humidity is significantly low unless humidified.

Please consider this regarding that report? That is all I ask?






Posted by OldGuy
a resident of Whisman Station
on Oct 13, 2020 at 10:31 pm

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Am I the only one who thinks relaxing controls is a bad idea? We were doing ok virus-wise. Now I fear it won't be long before there is another surge, as we have seen in Europe and elsewhere. We should have continued as we were until therapeutics become more widely available, probably early next year. Yes, people are hurting financially, but a proper govermental response could have ameliorated that.


Posted by Steven Goldstein
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 13, 2020 at 11:49 pm

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Oldguy,

No, I am in your camp. I am only wanting that if these people want to try to open up they do it right.

I agree it will just explode the cases again.

But too many people out there are going nuts because of being in this situation and are desperate.


Posted by Stephen Raillard
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Oct 14, 2020 at 2:38 pm

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The reason why this will most likely not work for too long is given by the county:
"The county is "switching from a strategy where we're controlling the environment by keeping a lot closed, to shifting the responsibility to each of us as individuals to do everything that we can to follow the core principles of wearing a mask, staying in a well-ventilated place and keeping a distance."
Shifting the responsibility to each of us does not work well and is bound to fail as we have seen in the past and we can see happening in Europe again now. And the challenge is much larger going forward than in the spring and summer given the cooler temperatures in late fall and winter which forces people to gather indoors.
Only with strict enforcement might the approach have a chance, but I did not read that this is planned. I am afraid that we will fall back to the red tier in due course with all the sad consequences, one of them being the schools having to close again.


Posted by Steven Goldstein
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 16, 2020 at 2:06 pm

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WOW, not that Remdisivir has been proven to not work on COVID by scientific research, what will be next snake oil to be marketed to us?

What will the White House have to say about Donald Trumps treatment?

Either he FAKED being sick with COVID and tried to give the false impression he got cured.

OR he is STILL sick and lying about how his treatment worked?


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