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Proposed 407-unit housing project would push the limits on Mountain View's residential density

Original post made on Aug 16, 2020

A developer is seeking to build more than 400 apartment units on a small property in the East Whisman area of Mountain View, marking the latest effort to replace the city's sprawling offices with high-density housing.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, August 15, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Posted by Jeremy Hoffman
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on Aug 16, 2020 at 7:56 am

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East Whisman is a great place for housing, and lots of it. And Mountain View still needs it. One of my toddler's favorite teachers is leaving his daycare this year because she lives far away and she'd rather have a shorter commute and more time with her family. Maybe if Mountain View had had a better jobs-housing balance, she could have lived here instead.

62/407 is 15% of below-market-rate (subsidized) homes, which seems like a pretty good rate as these things go.

I think we should be giving people the option to live without a car if they want to, especially in an area that's so good for biking and that's near light rail. Parking spaces take up tons of room, and they reduce livability by pushing everything farther away from other things. And land is money, so parking spaces make homes more expensive, whether or not the resident would use the 1 or 2 parking spaces.

I know it feels a little weird to talk about building anything when we're still in the upswing of a pandemic, but projects like this take years to complete, and in a couple of years COVID will be on the downswing. (I hope! In the meantime, keep being safe and smart, wear masks, avoid congregating indoors in high risk environments.)


Posted by MV neighbor
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 16, 2020 at 2:50 pm

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Most of the units “will be studios and one-bedroom.” Not very family friendly. Oh, were these planned for the high tech workers who are leaving Mountain View now with the work-from-home policies?


Posted by Rodger
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Aug 17, 2020 at 2:59 pm

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I hope this project gets dropped kicked into the bay. No way should something this dense and with not much parking be approved. Not many families can use a 1 bedroom apartment. All trips would be in cars, two for each apartment, parked up and down the street. I guess the developers want to stick it to Mountain View and get out of town. No way


Posted by Annie
a resident of another community
on Aug 17, 2020 at 5:16 pm

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Although I do not see this development as a ‘family friendly’ environment nearby (lack of a neighborhood park, no nearby grocery store, limited ‘family’ services, etc), this is not necessarily a bad thing. Since the majority of the housing will be built as studios and single-bedroom units, located in a neighborhood of technology-dense employers, and within a block of a light rail station, it is a perfect place for younger tech workers to get a foothold into the Mountain View community. Google, Symantec, Synopsis, Omnicell, etc. employ workers straight out of school, who lack cars, but are accustomed to using public transit or private car services. Mountain View needs to attract, and keep, these young adults in order to keep building the community. When I first arrived in Mountain View 38 years ago, we lived in a cheap, basic apartment (no amenities, other than the apartment house washer & drier) for a few years, saving every extra penny to purchase a ‘starter’ townhouse/condo near Whisman Park. We saw the city transforming from a gritty, rundown ghost town into a walkable, vibrant city center. Nearly a dozen years after arriving in Mountain View, we purchased a run-down house in Waverly Park, renovating it and continuing to stay involved with the schools, community, and supporting area businesses. Mountain View needs an infusion of younger residents with ideas, talents, and voices to continue growing it into a desirable community.


Posted by Steven Nelson
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 18, 2020 at 1:15 pm

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Different strokes for different folks (at various phases in their life). Although my dad and I grew up in (SoCal) the single family (2 bd / 1ba) house my grandfather had built, my wife started out in a one bedroom apartment that her parents rented. And both my wife and I had studios or one bedroom rentals 'till we married. Lots of units, for singles, couples and one child families. NO PROBLEM. That is what high density allows in a public transportation-close area.

I don't agree with the reporter/planners. HIGHer DENSITY is not just units per acre. It is also residents per acre!


Posted by MV neighbor
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 18, 2020 at 2:45 pm

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The point made above that these are designed for young high tech workers is perfectly valid, but lets cut the rhetoric about these high density buildings being aimed at keeping the diversity of Mountain Views low and moderate income families. The YIMBY organizations pushing them are funded by high tech companies and developers. Check the story in today’s SF Chronicle about the turnaround on all those high density housing built for high tech folks who are checking out. One of the high rises in MV is offering two months free rent now...a sign of what is a ahead perhaps. Meanwhile, the affordable, low rise, family oriented apartment complexes around the city are being torn down (not in this particular case but elsewhere). Just stop patting ourselves on the back for building more dense studio and one bedroom apartments for young single tech workers...in the “old days” since several people posting here mention them, they used to share houses and rent garden apartments.


Posted by Steven Goldstein
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 18, 2020 at 9:23 pm

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Yes Bloomberg just did a story about the Tech exodus found here (Web Link It is describing that the valley is in the perfect state for a serious correction regarding the economy.

The reality is that COVID has started the ball rolling regarding the collapse of quality of life businesses in the valley. My greatest loss was Clark's Burgers. The reality is that those that are in the position to do so are leaving, and those not in the position are stuck.

And AB5, the Microsoft case (Web Link and the Dynamex case (Web Link regarding contractors is forcing tech workers to relocate out of state to avoid the tech business to reclassify them as employees.

All these developers are doing now is making plans for high income high density demands where it could be that those demands vanish. Thus they get stuck with empty units, like what we are witnessing now. The fact that rents have dropped 15.9% year over year on the current Mountain View market.

The housing industry will not change its plans, so many will gamble on a a regional recovery that is highly unlikely to occur. This is setting up the valley for another serious economic loss.


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