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Council balks at proposed bridges to ferry Google buses over Stevens Creek Trail

Original post made on May 13, 2020

Two proposed transit bridges that would allow Google and other tech companies to carry employees into Mountain View over Stevens Creek Trail got an icy reception Tuesday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

Comments (24)

Posted by Tele-commute
a resident of Shoreline West
on May 13, 2020 at 1:55 pm

More tele-commuting will reduce traffic. If Google wants more infrastruture to return to business as usual, Google should start by offering to pay all costs.


Posted by GS
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on May 13, 2020 at 2:43 pm

Google is giving some employees $800 per month to take Uber/Lyft from their house to the Google offices so they don't have to drive and also artificially decreasing the single-person commuter vehicles. What else is Googel <sic> falsifying to benefit Googel?


Posted by kgirl
a resident of Rex Manor
on May 13, 2020 at 2:54 pm

Now that Twitter and some other tech companies are coming out with more telecommuting policies, which make perfect sense by the way, this issue may end up partly solving itself. It's a shame that it took a pandemic for these companies to figure out that people could be just as effective working from home and possibly even more so. Instead of cities trying to bare the burden of trying to pack more people in like lemmings into their communities, yes that is a swipe at our and other city counsels, this is a much simpler solution. Technology is there in terms of being able to support employees from locations just about anywhere. This opens up talent pools outside of the Bay Area to ease some of the hiring issues companies face here only trying to hire people in Silicon Valley. I understand people need to be seen for important meetings but not everyday. Just my $.02.


Posted by Proud Taxpayer
a resident of Willowgate
on May 13, 2020 at 2:54 pm

Sorry. No. This should not happen.
There is no way they could build a bridge without ruining the experience of the trail, creek, and wildlife.


Posted by Proud Taxpayer
a resident of Slater
on May 13, 2020 at 2:55 pm

Sorry. No. This should not happen.
There is no way they could build a bridge without ruining the experience of the trail, creek, and wildlife.


Posted by bstern
a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 13, 2020 at 3:38 pm

I would suggest friendly transportation means, like segways, electric bikes/boards, regular G bikes, rickshaws etc. which could cross the trail without giant road and bridge construction required, or even better through a short tunnel at the end of Crittenden Lane. Any heavy gear for the Bay View Campus can be trucked via the Ames side.


Posted by Time for Google to support Tele-Commuting
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 13, 2020 at 3:40 pm

Their instance on butts in chairs on site all the time is causing social ills in our community. Ills that have a solution in telecommuting.

It WORKED in the 90s. It worked very well as a matter of fact.


Posted by One wonders
a resident of North Bayshore
on May 13, 2020 at 3:57 pm

Google should start thinking like Elon and move out of California and build their own city.


Posted by Ilya
a resident of Cuernavaca
on May 13, 2020 at 4:05 pm

I guess it is too late for this now,but I wish Google would just find a friendlier location for their HQ and let all the NIMBers in Mountain View to enjoy their rapidly declining property value.


Posted by Alex M
a resident of Willowgate
on May 13, 2020 at 4:14 pm

All companies in the nation should be levied a commuting tax, in which the company pays an amount per employee physically present on site every day.


Posted by Jeremy Hoffman
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on May 13, 2020 at 4:38 pm

I can understand why people would balk at congestion pricing or paid parking. Who doesn't enjoy the convenience of free roads and free parking? But they really are the most effective means of nudging people's driving behavior.

And of course, free roads and free parking aren't really free. They're not paid for at time of use, but they cost money to build and maintain, and every car on the road imposes a cost on every other car on the road in the form of congestion (not to mention the cost on every person and animal from the noise and pollution).


Posted by Cog
a resident of Sylvan Park
on May 13, 2020 at 5:37 pm

Traffic and housing, traffic and housing, traffic and housing. Any city council members that don't understand the dual priorities of this city should leave office. The Stevens Creek trail park will be fine with this. If the cost is an issue, ask some of the businesses that will benefit to split the cost or more.

Stevens Creek used to be a bunch of mudflats at the end with boardwalks perilously perched above heaps of sewer smelling mud. People still flocked there in droves. The park and the trail will be fine with this overpass, and the area needs it desperately.


Posted by Rossta
a resident of Waverly Park
on May 13, 2020 at 6:09 pm

I am proud of our council members who recognized the precious value of Stevens Creek and the Trail for wildlife, recreation and commuting. Mountain View started working on the trail 31 years ago to build it into what we have today. The grand vistas and tranquility out there in the baylands would be severely impacted by bridge towering overhead with 100 buses criss-crossing overhead every hour - who remembers the P3s that roared overhead at just 12 per hour back in the 80's and 90's?

Adding bike bridges into this new Google campus makes good sense. Spend money and incentivize the behavior we want - I don't think that should be expanding the carbon fuel network.


Posted by SRB
a resident of St. Francis Acres
on May 13, 2020 at 6:25 pm

Some legitimate concerns raised but the aesthetics is a stretch.

Love the trail but let's remember it goes over 85, under 101, under 85, under Dana, over Evelyn/Caltrain/Central, under 85, under middflefield, over moffett, under 101... the new bridge has a low bar to look more attractive.

Also agree with Councilmember Clark, any traffic not going through that bridge will wind up back on 101.


Posted by domoh
a resident of North Whisman
on May 13, 2020 at 8:53 pm

If the city could decide on a scooter or ebike option for usage, that would cut down on the need to take a car.


Posted by Connor
a resident of Shoreline West
on May 13, 2020 at 11:03 pm

If mountain view had more high density housing those employees could be biking to work. How long is mountain view going to try to hold on to the suburb feel while spending big city money on infrastructure to bring people in from miles away at the cost of our air quality and environment?


Posted by Peter Karasev
a resident of Whisman Station
on May 14, 2020 at 1:39 am

There already IS a bridge at the end of Crittenden. Dead ends into/along NASA though, and its unclear what the weight rating is on it.


Posted by Mike
a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 14, 2020 at 8:58 am

With the California economy and fiscal situation going the way it is, this will soon be academic. Traffic will naturally die down as people leave, and there simply won't be much money for infrastructure projects. Boondoggles like the Stevens Creek Trail may have to be shut down.


Posted by dc
a resident of Sylvan Park
on May 14, 2020 at 1:48 pm

Oh well wait another few year and try again. When Google owns more of Sunnyvale and control of the NASA Ames facility they built.


Posted by Old Mtn View
a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 14, 2020 at 2:26 pm

If this will benefit the trail and especially the struggling wildlife I think rejecting it is smart.

I don’t know about Google moving out of town re: Elon Musk that’s a dumb idea that someone here said. You’re banned.... please close your Google Chrome browser and just go outside and enjoy the sun.


Posted by LongResident
a resident of another community
on May 14, 2020 at 2:36 pm

The council already said no to these bridges back in 2014. They also said that at most one would be possibly appropriate. At that time Google trotted out the city fire department which said that they needed a bridge to provide fire protection to the new buildings. These new plans seem much more grandiose than the previous ones that were already turned down. Google only has 1 Million square feet at NASA Ames. That's a poor reason to add 2 bridges costing $75 Million. Google new the bridges were not likely when they went ahead with construction...


Posted by Sam Connell
a resident of Rex Manor
on May 15, 2020 at 8:15 am

Satellite photos of the bridge at the end of Crittendon Lane show trucks driving over it. Seems like this is already a possibility. Set up a train-like crossing signal that looks pleasing to the eye. We used to have several street crossings on the trail further back - this would be used far less. Not sure what the town's concern should be. We all should be gung ho for traffic mitigation measures, as long as they are tied to more walkable streets downtown.


Posted by John
a resident of Whisman Station
on May 15, 2020 at 9:10 am

A beautiful bridge for pedestrians and bicycles, extending Avenida, could be useful.

Also, how about partnering with the Boring company to extend Shorebird?


Posted by Cog
a resident of Sylvan Park
on May 15, 2020 at 10:05 pm

This isn't a tranquil, sleepy suburb any more. The Stevens Creek trail and park will be fine with this. The north bayshore area has been slammed with traffic for some time now, so much so that many workers opt for swing shifts if possible, anything to avoid the 30 minute slog just to get to 101 during rush hour at night, and it is worse in the morning. The new Microsoft building, the new Linked In offices, the mass of new Google developments, where is that traffic going to go? You are going to kneecap all those people so people walking or biking on the trail have to look at another bridge? It doesn't make sense.

I think everyone here supports nature and more recreational activities in Mountain View. Make those concerns work with traffic and housing, not against them.


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