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City approves 2nd study for automated transit

Original post made on Jun 14, 2019

A far-off goal to build an automated transit line in Mountain View squeaked through the City Council to win funding for its next study phase.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, June 14, 2019, 12:39 PM

Comments (12)

Posted by MV Renter
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jun 14, 2019 at 1:47 pm

The routes look both interesting and useful.

Although according to the routes, the idea to close Castro/Moffett at Central wouldn't work anymore. Which gladdens me. I've always thought that the grade should be separated for the train/roadway anyway. It'll be costly and inconvenient with a horribly noisy and dusty construction period, but I still think it's the right thing to do.


Posted by Henry fox
a resident of another community
on Jun 14, 2019 at 2:20 pm

The best, least expensive to build and maintain, quick-to-put up elevated system is the aerial commute gondola--being built all over the world. The consultant hired to consider alternative transportation modes was unfamiliar with and completely misrepresented the gondola.

Time to take another look from someone who understands the system.


Posted by Dan Waylonis
a resident of Jackson Park
on Jun 14, 2019 at 2:35 pm

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This doesn't seem like an efficient use of city monies. Instead, how about providing incentives or even rewards to private firms to provide transportation alternatives.


Posted by Overkill
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jun 14, 2019 at 2:40 pm

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I really don't want to see an elevated system of automated vehicles (on fixed rail or suspended) running through the center of Mountain View. This will create connectivity barriers (physical and psychological) in our community. Think about Central, ECR, 101. The city staff said the model for our project is Jacksonville Florida Skyway (Web Link Yikes! Thats such bulky infrastructure. Let's make better use of the existing streets we have perhaps extending the reversible bus lane that is already in the works. The automated transit seems unrealistically ambitions. 850K could have really gone a long way with improving other infrastructure (paving our streets, creating better crosswalks, sidewalk, bike lanes, funding more frequent shuttle services).


Posted by Rossta
a resident of Waverly Park
on Jun 14, 2019 at 2:48 pm

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Glad to see this moving forward to get more understanding of what it would take to build. We want more housing to balance out the jobs that have already been added (and the traffic). But we shouldn't be adding that housing without even a plan for how to increase our transportation capacity. This is the only option that requires small amounts of land to add significant capacity and allow that transit to operate efficiently - meaning faster than being in a car.
MAK seems to have made up the $500MM-$1B number, so no reason to use that to shy away from doing a proper investigation.
Remember that this idea actually started with a local private company working on the technology, though not offering to implement it with private funds.


Posted by Yimby #2
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Jun 15, 2019 at 9:23 am

The MV City Council should receive credit for attempting concrete measures to address transport issues. Whether you agree or disagree with the details, it is movement in the right direction.

Better than meaningless platitudes, virtue signaling, emotional communication of how bad people feel about transportation/or housing, or demonization of housing providers or companies that bring jobs to our area.


Posted by Mike
a resident of Gemello
on Jun 15, 2019 at 9:42 am

Its like the Springfield Monorail:
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Posted by psr
a resident of The Crossings
on Jun 16, 2019 at 2:49 pm

Another phenomenal waste of taxpayer dollars for something that will serve few. This money should be spent to serve the people we have here now, not this pie-in-the-sky nonsense that will end up costing 10 times more than they say and serve a small fraction of the people they say it will.

While the council fritters money away on this version of Brown's "Train to Nowhere", we shouldn't worry about if it happens or not. We are all probably going to get swallowed up by potholes on El Camino and the rest of the streets around here.


Posted by Mark Thomas
a resident of Rex Manor
on Jun 16, 2019 at 9:31 pm

The numbers for an "elevated guideway" seem quite high. When I checked out SkyTran (http://www.skytran.com) a few years ago, they estimated the capital cost was $10 million/mile for both directions.


Posted by E. Evelyn
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Jun 17, 2019 at 8:47 am

I would like to see some kind of public transportation along E.Evelyn. There are couple of train stations (Mountain View or Sunnyvale) people living/working along this street could use if there was ‘last mile’ option.


Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2019 at 4:36 pm

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THe premise of this project is like trying to make Mountain View into EPCOT.

The idea makes for great drawings, pictures, etc.

But we live in the real world. And if the City goes into the kind of debt to build this "Tomorrowland" it is likely to go bankrupt.

Simply put, just redesign the entire area with proer road space and parking structures. Or create a dedicated mas transit route like a light rail.

But putting it up in the air is just unrealistic given that we are in a tectonically unstable zone.

What a waste of money and time.


Posted by PA Resident
a resident of another community
on Jun 18, 2019 at 3:57 pm

It always concerns me when transit routes are planned that do not cross city or county boundaries. People change jobs more often than they move house, and when two people in a couple both work, they most likely do not work close to each other and one will have a longer commute even if one can walk.


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