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A neighborhood association on wheels

Original post made on Mar 15, 2019

Lacking a safety net, nearly half of Americans are estimated to be one crisis away from the poorhouse. They could be pushed into poverty from an accident, a job loss, a rent increase or a medical emergency. In the case of Scott Rodvold, 58, it was all of the above.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 15, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Posted by Yimby #2
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 15, 2019 at 2:34 pm

I would support a safe place to park assuming their is both help limitations:
1. Cost to tax payers clearly disclosed, no accounting funny business
2. Time limitation for staying in program
3. Resources to get them re-employed
4. If can't get themselves re-established, they will have to move on
a) Sorry. Taxpayers cannot fund a permanent low cost residence in one
of the most expensive places in on the planet.
5. Please note that there have been neighborhoods which have been
inappropriately inundated with RVs. They are lining the streets
nose to tail in some areas. Is this an appropriate way to
treat the people living in those neighborhoods?
a)Does it not seem fair enough to extend some help while putting some
limitations on the help?


Posted by Sarah
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Mar 15, 2019 at 2:41 pm

I am so glad to hear about this advocacy group. This is exactly what is needed and proposed by many to help support good people in a terrible situation. Previous discussions called for the establishment of a safe parking locations with bathrooms and job support services to make a community location for RV dwellers.

These two people sound considerate of their neighbors and trying to make the best of a difficult and expensive housing situation. Unfortunately, sometimes one bad, inconsiderate person can ruin things for the group.

I wish all the dwellers success in their future.


Posted by Anything
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 15, 2019 at 2:44 pm

Anything to get them into an area(s) and off the streets!


Posted by WhyLiveHere
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 15, 2019 at 2:47 pm

It's great that Mountain View is where people want to live.

Lots of places are great to live. And sadly, some places get more expensive with time. Why does "I have rented here for a long time" have any weight on an argument as to why people should continue living in MTV?

We should work on affordability for teachers, librarians, city workers, firefighters, and police. I'm not convinced it's the city's problem to subsidize the unskilled workforce.

And the city really needs to stop encouraging RVs -- just like Berkeley recently did.


Posted by Alex M
a resident of Willowgate
on Mar 15, 2019 at 3:00 pm

@WhyLiveHere: That "unskilled workforce" is essential to any city. Someone needs to haul away trash, dig ditches, clean restrooms, do landscaping maintenance, and so on. I know of one RV dweller who's a hospital nurse. They're mostly law-abiding citizens doing the best they can. If these people cannot live near the city where they work, they will find work elsewhere, and the city will fester. The question isn't whether to subsidize them, but rather how much, until a better long-term housing solution can be found.

At least the RV dwellers have a place to call home, after a fashion, unlike many homeless. My concern is more about dumping their sewage, keeping the vehicles in good working order, and preventing their RV "neighborhood" from becoming a slum. Too many RVs I see are decrepit wrecks with all sorts of junk piled around them, incapable of moving if they had to.


Posted by Randy
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 15, 2019 at 3:11 pm

RV parking is not a homeless problem, it's a RV problem. MVCC can solve the living wage problem, the traffic problem, the lack of affordable housing later or continue to wring your hands on their own time. MVCC have already given us a sanctuary city, rent control, and soon, a couple of pot shops, Mint a new millionaire. Two shops, mint two more millionaires. Those two stores will have a monopoly in Mountain View. Behind every great fortune, a crime. Can't wait to see who MVCC ordains.

Please, one more time, do something positive for our city, be like Berzerkely, and ban overnight parking, thank you.

Even Berkeley says no more overnight parking for homeless RV dwellers
Berkeley city council members voted 6-3 to prohibit people from sleeping in RVs on city streets

"BERKELEY — Though known for its progressive, anti-capitalist bent, this city is obliging business owners and some residents by banning overnight RV parking, effectively giving the boot to droves of homeless people living in the vehicles so customers won’t have to pass them on the way to their yoga classes, pottery studios and craft breweries."

"By the end of the month, “parking oversize vehicles, including campers and RVs” will be prohibited on city streets from 2 to 5 a.m., according to a resolution the Berkeley City Council approved on a 6-3 vote Feb. 28 in response to complaints from west side business owners about an influx of nomadic dwellers in the area. If the council adopts the resolution at its March 26 meeting, the ban will take effect immediately."

"This ban is totally appropriate. The author totally misrepresents this issue with a very limited understanding of how this situation evolved. It's easy to make funny quips about craft brewers and lattes but those of us who live and work in West Berkeley, hard working regular folks who have jobs and are invested in the community have been overwhelmed by this influx of RV's and encampments. over the last year and the City of Berkeley itself created the problem."


"Let me give you some background on the situation which is not mentioned in this article. For some reason In February of 2018 the City of Berkeley stopped enforcing the 72 hour rule of no parking in the Marina area. Normally an RV would park out there and after 3 days the Berkeley police we leave a warning they would have to leave. By July of last year there were more than 100 RV's in the marina next to the Double Tree Hotel. A group came to the city indicating that they were in violation of a state charter that bans overnight camping or living in the marina. The city would have then faced a lawsuit and, as a result evicted the RV's. Almost immediately they moved to West Berkeley impacting block upon block of areas where working people live and have businesses. For whatever reason these people made a choice to live in RV's."

Sound familiar? I suspect a former council mayor has posted directions to Mountain View, although to be fair, he has the the correct post for the bay shore school issue.



Posted by William Hitchens
a resident of Waverly Park
on Mar 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm

William Hitchens is a registered user.

"One of the founding members of the Vehicle Residents group, Vargas, 23, believes people living out of their vehicles are being made into a scapegoat for the larger frustrations in the community." Really? They're causing traffic (especially bicycle), pedestrian, and sanitation problems. They're not scapegoats. They are a source of frustration and extreme annoyance for many residents of MV.


Posted by Chuck
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 15, 2019 at 4:09 pm

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Posted by Randy Guelph
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 15, 2019 at 4:33 pm

My goodness, do you folks hear yourselves? Why not meet with these people if you have such nasty things to say about them? Is it the anonymity of sitting behind a keyboard that lets you unleash all that anger and hate?


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