Great work by MVPD, who rarely get the credit they deserve for a tough job under the best of circumstances.

Thank you for all the brave work by MVPD. Commenter AI Facts insinuating that the perps may have been immigrants or non-legal and that could have been a predictor of this crime is a pure politics.

This is gun violence. There is no reason for guns in our modern urban environment. Anyone in downtown MV carrying a gun should be considered a likely or current criminal.

Why does MV or any península city permit guns anymore? There is no justificable reason for it. When was the last time a MV resident used a gun for protection effectively? These days guns are used for crime and little else. When will we finally realize that guns in our city are tools for criminals and anything else, hunting, sport etc. are just excuses we use to allow these dangerous and unnecessary weapons in the hands of civilians (unlike police or military) in our city?

. . . it even extends (in its efforts to rationalize) as far as claiming to mind-read the motivations, and guess the personal circumstances, of anyone who points out that behavior.

To anyone *not* caught up in that limiting, smug, self-congratulatory little mid-set, this all stands out starkly. It's all been well documented and analyzed.

No. Having family in difficult situations such to result in murder is where the questioning comes from. If he is here alone, without his family (who one would think he would want to protect), it leads to sensible questions about how he got here or under what circumstances. Was he also fleeing violence? Was he (and his cousin) themselves criminals? The age bracket is also a factor.

When a family flees violence together, it appears as an entirely different story than one young man, perhaps angry and paranoid enough to buy a gun because his cousin was murdered back home and is then used as a weapon in a crime that he himself commits.

There are brown people everywhere. Brown people like me. We who seek better lives and the betterment of the place which is home to us don't pull stunts like firing rounds in the streets.

The inherent ultimate aim of legal immigrants is the betterment of their lives and their families lives. Black, brown, yellow, doesn't matter.

My experience is that many immigrants work very hard to prepare the way for their families to come here.

When an immigrant causes gangster trouble in the streets, it becomes fair to question their motives for being here, regardless of their color, language, or ethnicity.

Again, I'm brown and bilingual. I have just shared with you my views and aspects of my personal information to promote some kind of understanding between us. If we weren't such a wonderfully diverse community here, you'd be able to spot me in the street from my self-description.

So I ask you, if you just wanna be angry about it and cry foul at what appears to me (a brown bilingual person) to have been a reasonable line of thinking than please just say so. And if you want to actually discuss what you cite to be an issue/problem/concern, please say so as well.

Monte Carlo and the Shoreline Amphiteather provide job security for MVPD, and no doubt residents foot the bill.

We have to walk through the bleary eyed drunks loitering outside these alcohol dispensaries and they have so many documented issues of violent crime, drug dealing, sexual assaults...the list goes on. Why do we have to endure these places and the element and crime they attract each time we go downtown?

Do we allow these alcohol dispensaries around our schools?
Why doesn't the City Council look at the laws about where they can operate?
The drunks are ruining MV!

Why is there be so much alcohol sale and consumption going on all over our town? Too many violent issues are connected to these places. The sell root beer float vodka in the grocery stores, eye level with a tween/teen's height
in very close proximity to schools. They even auction alcohol off at our ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S events for KIDS!

Given the proven, undeniable fact that alcohol takes and ruins lives regularly in this town, it's astounding to me that it's given a free pass.

Shame on our City Council. How many alcohol outlets need to be surrounding our schools? One is too many IMO.

No plea deal. Kidnapping? Carrying and shooting weapons? Convict them and lock them up for the maximum prison time that CA sentencing guidelines allow. Get all criminals off of our streets.