Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, January 28, 2019, 11:00 PM
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Pedestrian killed in crash on El Camino Real
Original post made on Jan 29, 2019
Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, January 28, 2019, 11:00 PM
Comments (10)
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 29, 2019 at 11:00 am
I do have a concern that our push for pedestrian and cyclist safety does not include implying that jaywalking is safe.
Automobile thoroughfares are for automobiles. Crosswalks are for crossings. Bike and pedestrian paths are for bikes and pedestrians.
No amount of road dieting, signage, or markings replaces the need for education and compliance regarding personal safety.
a resident of another community
on Jan 29, 2019 at 2:30 pm
He wasn't struck by a car, he was killed by a motorist.
a resident of North Whisman
on Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 pm
MV renter - really, any publication that pushes to make cities more pedestrian friendly should include reminders that jaywalking is illegal? Should they also mention that shoplifting is illegal, as is assault, urinating in public, etc?
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Jan 29, 2019 at 2:53 pm
He has a pet peeve and used this man's death to rant about it. Classy.
a resident of Martens-Carmelita
on Jan 29, 2019 at 4:58 pm
Maher is a registered user.
I agree with MV RENTER about jaywalking issues and cyclist issues too and the authorities' silences about abuse by pedestrians and cycles due to safety priorities on their behalf. I've encountered many times in recent months pedestrians stepping into my car's path without even looking to see if the way is clear, esp in parking lots; and as for cyclists, they run stop signs routinely and even go through red lights which they seem to think they can "time" successfully. Also they weave in and out of bike lanes whimsically as if cars don't deserve any rights or respect.
So I agree that "safety support" for both categories needs to include warnings about obeying the rules and USING GOOD SENSE. Cars do have the right of way in some situations.
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 30, 2019 at 9:21 am
Can't all of you show a little sympathy for the man who died! Geez, stop and think for a minute.
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 30, 2019 at 9:53 am
Sympathy for the man who died doesn't preclude concern to avoid more such tragedies, which is what the thoughtful posters above are pointing out. And yes, he was undeniably "struck by a car" -- the story so far has little more detail than that -- even if one comment sought very inappropriately to spin that reality to serve some personal agenda or other. (Speaking of "sympathy.")
a resident of Monta Loma
on Jan 30, 2019 at 3:13 pm
Sympathies for the man and his friends and family, very sad. I do agree with Maher in that I have observed a lot more jaywalking recently. It definitely is a safety hazard and dangerous to all of us moving through out the neighborhoods.
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 30, 2019 at 6:19 pm
Slow dowm is a registered user.
My deep condolences to the man's family.
Vehicle speed has huge impact on whether a pedestrian survives an impact with a vehicle. At 20mph the odds of death are 5%, at 30mph 45% and 40mph 85%. Speed also has an impact on how fast the driver can react. I personally would like to know how fast the driver was going.
I used to think people just jaywalked but in my own neighborhood, jaywalking went down dramatically when the City installed traffic lights and crosswalks at Mariposa and left turn signals on Escuela along California.
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 31, 2019 at 2:49 pm
@Humble observer, thank you for making my point more eloquently than I did. I typed so fast that I missed a couple of key words which would have explained my view better.
@Maggie I don't mean to be unsympathetic. But I was there immediately after the incident, snarled in traffic with many other people. From what I saw myself, and from what I glean from the additional details; it was a needless loss of life, which is of course very sad. But I'm afraid I believe it's still a valid point: we must look after our own safety. There are rules and laws which exist for good reason: like not jaywalking. And as @David mentioned, perhaps minus the glibness: not shoplifting (even if you are poor), not committing assault (even if you were bullied as a child and don't know how to manage hurt feelings or aggression properly), and not urinating in public (even if you have bladder control issues due to diabetes).
The gentleman who passed would still be here if he had not gone out into a section of four lanes of automobile thoroughfare, only feet away from a major intersection where there are an additional three turning lanes per side.
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