Measure V not to costly?? For who??The taxpayer?

What about the landlords who are not only subsidising rental housing with their private investments now but also overpaying fees to this abominable law!

Oh I forgot, their class doesn't count anymore in Mountain View because it's other people's money.

Do you know what it's called when you single out a certain class and treat them different than the rest of society?

It's called discrimination whether its race, age, gender, religion or whatever and in this case type of business and investment one has chosen.

Why don't we make a law that all dentists in Mountain View need to work for $20 per hour and charge all their customers that amount. I'm not a dentist so that's all right for me. What about the dry cleaners? Should they be ordered to drop their prices because everyone deserves ironed shirts?

This is a disgrace when liberals claim their tolerant and a giving people but feel entitled to steal someone else's hard earned money. You have no morals except the ones that serve you best. Disgusting!!

In response to Howard you said:

“Do you know what it's called when you single out a certain class and treat them different than the rest of society?

It's called discrimination whether its race, age, gender, religion or whatever and in this case type of business and investment one has chosen.”

Howard, unless you can cite any law that defines that there is such thing as business or investment discrimination and in fact it is illegal, I think you are making a false argument. It does not appear to exist in the U.S. or in California.

You also said:

“This is a disgrace when liberals claim their tolerant and a giving people but feel entitled to steal someone else's hard earned money. You have no morals except the ones that serve you best. Disgusting!!”

I am no liberal, but I am a “moderate” and when a minority of non-citizens take advantage of another community, I will do what I can to control it. That is what has happened in Mountain View. Please demonstrate how many of the current apartment owners of buildings in Mountain View are owned by those living here. Owning property doesn’t make you a citizen of Mountain View, only residing in the City does.

I am curious. My landlord is losing a non-CSFRA unit because it was rented after passage. However he has had 4 visitors and all have decided not to sign in. I think I know why. First he is expecting $2100/month on the rent, given my building and amenities it is way too high. But more importantly, when they Google the landlord and Mountain View, when I did it last, it showed in the 3rd entry a very negative news report from the Mountain View Voice.

I wonder if this is also occurring with all the other landlords cited for making comments during City Council or RHC meetings. When they express no consideration regarding their tenants or “customers”. It would appear that these individuals are poisoning themselves by demonstrating no appreciation regarding their customers.

I think most prospective tenants do research regarding the property owners, and if they discover behaviors that demonstrate poor conduct, lack of respect for tenants, or flat out hostility, they will choose not to do business with them.

It may be that there are tenants leaving these apartments, and these landlords are now not getting anyone to replace them. This should have been anticipated by the landlords because they caused this problem themselves.

Of course, it will require them to make significant discounts on rental expectations in order to get anyone to live in their units. But that was not caused by the CSFRA, it was caused by their own conduct in public where they should have known that a record of their speech was being made.

Business man,
Don't look now but your seeing the market forces in action. These vacancies around you are being caused by a market that cannot sustain the cost of living in the bay area. I see this in our market in San Mateo County.

Unfortunately, you have weakened the housing providers with your lust of power in Mountain View and your lack of understanding and you will see a correction in the market that will likely take many investors out of the business of providing affordable housing in your region.

I was one of them with many units that sold out to developers for redevelopment of 1.6 million dollar row houses and I reinvested in Contra Costa million + dollar units.
You can't play God unless your willing to pay to be God.
Good luck on your adventure for how ever long it lasts??

In response to Howard you said:

“Don't look now but your seeing the market forces in action. These vacancies around you are being caused by a market that cannot sustain the cost of living in the bay area. I see this in our market in San Mateo County.”

What evidence do you have to make that determination? It looks more like the customers have better choices rather than be convinced to overpay for poor services. That is why people CHOOSE not to do business with these individuals. You said:

“Unfortunately, you have weakened the housing providers with your lust of power in Mountain View and your lack of understanding and you will see a correction in the market that will likely take many investors out of the business of providing affordable housing in your region.”

Why should housing providers dominate the market? The market relationship should be one where the customer and providers are equals. That is REAL business. Your concept is that you want the old feudalistic model of housing where property owners in effect “own” the renters. That simply doesn’t make sense. You said:

“I was one of them with many units that sold out to developers for redevelopment of 1.6 million dollar row houses and I reinvested in Contra Costa million + dollar units.”

That is your choice, I do not claim that anyone is forced to do business where they do not want to. You also said:

“You can't play God unless your willing to pay to be God.”

Who is trying to play God, Why should anyone feel entitled to be able to buy the rights to be a God? In this country, no one can be a God, we are all equal citizens. This doesn’t seem to be realistic. You also said:

“Good luck on your adventure for how ever long it lasts??”

It is not an adventure, this is LIFE.

You said,

"Why should housing providers dominate the market? The market relationship should be one where the customer and providers are equals. That is REAL business. Your concept is that you want the old feudalistic model of housing where property owners in effect “own” the renters. That simply doesn’t make sense."

First of all, REAL business is governed by the market, not the government!!

Your concept of what "Real business is" is what satisfies you as a renter and takes advantage of the property owners. It doesn't follow your analogy that the customers and providers are equals?

Secondly, Do you truly believe that price controls are real business?
What happens when rents increase outside of your little rent control bubble at a faster pace? Answer: Investment $$ go there and leave your bubble, deteriorating the housing stock. 95% of the investment $$ is from private investors that want returns that are consistent with the rest of the region.

Your idea of REAL business is a terrible investment business model and your kingdom will fail in time.

In response to Howard you said:

“First of all, REAL business is governed by the market, not the government!!”

This has been a false idea that never seems to be corrected. REAL business or markets are controlled by 2 forces, “voluntary” market regulations, which are practiced where the free market must comply to be competitive or profitable. There is “governmental” or “involuntary” market regulations that are required to provide that either unsafe products or services are not being sold, that market manipulation like monopolies and oligopolies are prevented in the U.S., as well as corrective actions due to exploitation of the market. The fact is in the U.S. market, both have existed and will never be separated until the “voluntary” market regulations are strong enough to make it unnecessary for the “involuntary” market regulations. In an ideal world, where the market seeks to treat both suppliers and consumers have equal influence, that might be possible. But as of now, that is unrealistic. You said:

“Your concept of what "Real business is" is what satisfies you as a renter and takes advantage of the property owners. It doesn't follow your analogy that the customers and providers are equals?”

The CSFRA was a means of attempting to negotiate a fair deal. It was the Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove. The fact was the industry in Mountain View sought no negotiations regarding a more amicable solution. During the campaign and in fact all of the time, if the landlords practiced disciplined business practices, transparency, and had realistic expectations of what the market would bear, the CSFRA would not have happened. The fact is, the industry in Mountain View simply still refuses to work out any solutions, only make use of money to manipulate the City Council. You said:

“Secondly, Do you truly believe that price controls are real business?”

Under these extreme curcumstances where such a crisis has arisen, it was required. If the suppliers had not in effect collaborated to increase living costs in Mountain View, you could have a good point. But there is ampe evidence that the “free market” disenfranchises the needs of the average needs in preference for premium apartments. So, it simply was a last resort that was necessitated by the circumstances. You also said:

“What happens when rents increase outside of your little rent control bubble at a faster pace? Answer: Investment $$ go there and leave your bubble, deteriorating the housing stock. 95% of the investment $$ is from private investors that want returns that are consistent with the rest of the region.”

I cannot claim that you are wrong here, but if Costa Hawkins is repealed, then it is very likely that rent control will go critical mass in California. The landlords are now in a position that they may need to revise their expectations regarding their return on investments in California. You also said:

“Your idea of REAL business is a terrible investment business model and your kingdom will fail in time.”

I am not royalty of any kind, just a citizen. In reality landlords expected to be treated as royalty simply for the fact that bought a building. Does that sound realistic in a republic like the U.S> and California.