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Bullis seeks to open school for low-income kids

Original post made on Feb 21, 2018

One of the highest-performing charter schools in the state has quietly staked out plans to create a second school in Santa Clara County, aimed at enrolling low-income children.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 21, 2018 at 10:06 am

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It is understandable that Bullis parents would not want any preference the admission of children from low-income families and that they would prefer a separate school for "those" children. What do readers think? How about making the new school at the Safeway site on California in Mountain View just for children from low-income families? What possible sites have been identified? How about in San Jose? Can Bullis Charter open a "satelite campus" in any city or county in California? El Camino Hospital, remember, expanded to Los Gatos. Just asking.


Posted by Ron MV
a resident of Waverly Park
on Feb 21, 2018 at 2:26 pm

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@Gary
Wow. Way to start off the discussion with snark and pointing fingers. They look at offing education to low income students and immediately you dump on them for it. Nicely done.


Posted by Tom
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 21, 2018 at 2:29 pm

@Gary, relegating "those" children to a "separate but equal" school is called segregation. Not a shock that BCS would respond to the legitimate concern about their "continued challenge" to enroll lower income kids by attempting to ship them off. If they carried a normal 5% ratio of lower income kids, of course their test scores would drop, but they would be doing the right thing.


Posted by psr
a resident of The Crossings
on Feb 21, 2018 at 3:00 pm

@ Ron MV
This isn't "dumping" on Bullis. It is looking at the history and the facts.

It's not a surprise that Bullis would want to create a "special" school (separate, of course) to try to combat the bad press they get for not having lower-income children at their campus in the same percentage as they occur in the district as a whole. They can claim altruism and still keep "those" kids separate from their little darlings. They will also be able to continue to claim that they provide a superior education relative to the rest of the district because the separation will allow them to continue to exclude the scores of those children who are likely to score lower on standard tests.

The truth of the matter is that Bullis has a history of excluding lower-income children and children with special needs. They claim to be a public school (they proclaim that on their literature and signage), yet they shame those who don't pay their $5000 per child per year "donation" and they actively exclude children with special needs, claiming that they should attend district schools where their issues "can be dealt with" since they don't have educators capable to do the job.

What is the result? The district has to educate everybody, so they expend money on the more difficult to educate children while Bullis is free to use their endowment funds to provide special opportunities to their children (trips to China, for example) and they still get classroom space and other benefits from the district, all the while complaining that they are somehow being abused.

The fact is this. Bullis has used the charter school law in this state to wage a war on LASD. Charter schools are meant to provide an alternative in under-performing school districts. LASD is NOT an under-performing district. As a matter of fact, ALL the district schools are top-performing California schools. The difference between Bullis scores and LASD district scores is negligible, so the fact they continue to exist is pointless.

If Bullis really wants to help anyone, they should stop pretending to be a public school and re-brand themselves as the private school they are in everything but name.


Posted by swissik
a resident of another community
on Feb 21, 2018 at 4:59 pm

@Ron MV: my immediate reaction to the article was "separate but equal". However, I am sure the Bullis people mean well and are sincere in their effort to offer an excellent education to underprivileged students. I certainly believe that they would do a superior job to anything government might propose.


Posted by Thanks BCS
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2018 at 11:29 am

Kudos to BCS for trying to help low income kids. A separate school will be more conducive to advancing these kids as the program can be geared specifically to them. For many of the low income kids (not all), trying to mainstream them into the very challenging program at the main BCS site could become an exercise in frustration as they have trouble competing with the higher socioeconomic kids coming from more educated families. We'd like these kids to see themselves as successful, not failures.


Posted by No Thanks...
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Feb 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm

One really has to admire the Bullis curriculum for its inflexibility in addressing the needs of low income students... so inflexible that a whole separate school should be set up! That had to take some effort.

Perhaps they could learn from studying differentiated instruction and personalized learning. Like we have in Mountain View public schools, who happily serve kids from all backgrounds and allow them to mix socially, athletically, academically, etc. and move between learning levels as they grow as students, without having to change schools, make new friends, or drive cross-town (thank you, new boundaries and Slater!)

Can’t wait to see how these groups (and their parents) mix when they get to high school... one group of students who has learned segmentation and division by economic class, and one that has learned flexibility, diversity, and reward for individual achievement. Should be interesting!


Posted by Sadly amused
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 22, 2018 at 1:54 pm

To THANKS BCS and others who's posts smack of this. Please get this...LOW INCOME DOES NOT HAVE TO EQUAL LOW INTELLIGENCE. Sure, there are many challenges to being low-income, but having a working brain isn't automatically one of them. The main problem is access. Families with enough money have better access to many things. When talking about academics, the label low-income should be removed from the conversation. The "low-income" kids don't need to be mainstreamed into quality, challenging education. ALL kids should have that. If learning issues sow themselves, which occur across income levels, then you start looking at different ways to meet those challenges. Please stop looking at this as a way for privileged, educated people to come in and help the less fortunate.


Posted by Real question
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2018 at 2:09 pm

An interesting question is the disparity in free and reduced price lunches between Mountain View Whisman and Los Altos school districts. LASD is under 5%, and they have to work hard to keep it that high. There are free and reduced price lunch students at the schools serving their most expensive areas, such as Oak, Loyola, Gardner Bullis. However, it gets down to below 1% in these areas. Where do you find 5 low income students in an area like that served by Oak? It's also interesting that in Jr high numbers are so different. 238 FRPL kids in the whole district. 25% of enrollment is split between 2 junior highs. 47 of 650 students at Egan Jr High and only 11 of 500 kids at Blach get FRPL.

Anyway, contrast this to MVWSD. There are 45% or so free and reduced price lunch in MVWSD across all schools fairly evenly. Of course they have been picking attendance area components to bump up the total at Huff. Some kids there come from the Whisman area.

Anyway, the point is that some of the people commenting here make it seem like Bullis could recruit a lot of FRPL kids if they only tried. It's not like MVWSD. There aren't 3000 to draw from. District-wide it's only been a number like 238, 25% in the Jr Highs.

If you look at the family income from LASD students compared to Bullis, it's about the same. Both are way way more than in MVWSD. The real "crime" is the disparity between MVWSD and LASD


Posted by Thanks BCS
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2018 at 7:09 pm

@Sadly amused- who said low income = low intelligence? One only has to look at the scores in any distric to see that the low income kids are performing significantly below their higher socioeconomic peers. That’s a fact, not conjecture. While IQ might play a part in some instances, the fact that the higher socioeconomic kids come from more educated families with education as a high priority for their kids is a strong determinant in outcome.

And while you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against affluent residents, I applaud the “privileged, well educated” folks for trying to help their less fortunate neighbors. Your attitude won’t help these kids but a specialized program might.


Posted by George
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Feb 22, 2018 at 8:10 pm

Seems divisive the have's and the have nots.
How sad for all the students.


Posted by Sadly Amused
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 23, 2018 at 9:46 pm

@Thanks BCS and @Let'S Be Thankful, addressing both of your comments...
No chip on my shoulder. Not sure how or why you've made an assumption that I am not affluent. I don't understand why you think low income parents don't value and prioritize a good education for their children. My son was in the choice DI program at Castro elementary with many, many low income families. You would be hard pressed to find a more committed, enthusiastic, and active group of parents. The same was true for many, many families in the traditional program at the school. I don't know the exact figure, but Castro had a high percentage of kids eligible for free and reduced price lunches. The problem, again, is access. If parents are mono-lingual in their native language, they may not know about or understand other opportunities that are available, or that scholarships might be available. If parents didn't go far in their own education, they may not know how to navigate a school system very well, or may be very intimidated by it all. This should not be interpreted as not wanting their kids to have a great education. I'm sure you're not intending this, and people with the misperceptions you have don't recognize themselves this way, but I must tell you...your elitism and classism are showing.


Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Feb 24, 2018 at 10:06 am

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I would applaud BCS for opening a school to specifically serve lower income children. It would be a great test to see if their much vaunted and "innovative" curriculum delivers superior results in populations that are disadvantaged vs the elite of the elite they serve today. I'm not sure how effectively they could replicate their program without the $5K average "donation" per student, but it's worth a shot. However, this should in no way absolve them of their responsibility at their existing school to serve both the lower income, and learning disabled students in the same proportions that LASD does. They need to improve outreach and take concrete steps to balance their population to better reflect the community they serve. One thing they could easily do, is to have a first round of admission lottery with only lower income and learning disabled children until they hit the appropriate percentages, then continue with a round of all applicants (including those unchosen from the first round). This would ensure balance and even allow for the possibility of serving slightly more than the rest of LASD. Charter laws were originally intended to help disadvantaged and underserved students. BCS should take action to comply with the spirit of those laws both in their existing school, and any new school they open.


Posted by Low Income
a resident of another community
on Feb 24, 2018 at 2:18 pm

It's worth noting that the LASD board talked of a school along California Street in their district as being a school in need of intense social support for the students. I.e., although they do nothing like that in any of their schools, they went on at length about how the 10th site committee might consider that. But is this an area where that would be appropriate?

This Bullis idea of going into East Palo Alto would make more sense as a location needing intense social support, since that school district already has programs like that in their schools. They have 90% lunch program eligibility.

But LASD has only 5% low income students overall, and 5 of the 7 elementary schools have only 1%. How is Bullis expected to be different than these 5 other elementary schools at 1%?

Meanwhile, Mountain View Whisman has declined from 43% lunch program eligibility to 34%. In the area around San Antonio/California Street, LASD has under 20% lunch program eligibility.

So what the heck is LASD talking about? This San Antonio/California Street area is above their low district-wide average, but it's not highly deprived. It's not a good place to establish a program for low income kids. LASD already has two schools with higher low income presence, with 10% and 13%. If a social support program is warranted for 18% low income presence, it is about the same in the case of a 13% low income presence. Why isn't LASD already acting if they feel this is appropriate?

LASD is all talk and no action when it comes to caring for its lower income students. They also don't do such a good job on other concerns. The interest in the charter school proves that. The article here says the charter school is all high income kids, which is just not true. It's about the same income level as the overall LASD population. The Bullis program doesn't depend on extraordinary support.

If Bullis opens a school in East Palo Alto with 90% disadvantaged students per state rules, they will qualify for about $5000 more per student than at their LASD branch. The LCFF dramatically increases funding to each disadvantaged student, and even more so when the proportion exceeds 50%.

So with ZERO private contributions per student, such a new school would have the SAME funding as Bullis uses for its first school.


Posted by GoodAnswer
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 24, 2018 at 3:54 pm

I applaud the Bullis Charter School. They are filling a need -- without them, the parents in Los Altos would be forced to go to a private school. By subsidizing these parents with public money, they are able to keep their children in a public school, while getting all the benefits of a private one.

These are well spent tax dollars, and we should encourage Bullis in any way we can to help them with this mission.


Posted by Thanks BCS
a resident of another community
on Feb 24, 2018 at 4:46 pm

@ Sadly Amused: I’m not sure what your point is. The article is about BCS consideration of a program exclusively for low income kids using innovative techniques in attempts to improve their education. In every LASD and MVWSD school the LI kids are performing well below the non LI kids. You tout Mistral DI but that school shows 92% proficiency for non LI kids vs 32% proficiency for LI kids. You can stand on your soap box all day long proselytizing about my “elitism” but your way isn’t working. Again, my hat’s off to BCS for wanting to try something to actually help these kids rather than spouting about egalitarianism which is nothing but feel good rhetoric for the spouters.


Posted by Too much misinformation
a resident of another community
on Feb 28, 2018 at 12:20 pm

BCS receives approximately 10 applications for every space available. Students residing in LASD receive priority in the school's lottery so ALL of these seats are filled by LASD residents. BCS is not trying to segregate students within LASD. They are looking to launch a new school in a different school district to bring their proven curriculum methods to an underserved community. How can you argue with that?


Posted by John
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 28, 2018 at 12:54 pm

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So California charter schools can expand to other districts in the county and offer whatever program they can fund with public and private money. The public money would be taken from the school district(s) from which the students are drawn. Is that how it works?
Bullis Charter will make use of the San Antonio site that should be a. neighborhood school. LASD will put Bullis there to get them out of Los Altos. Right? There are some slick PR specialists at work for LASD and Bullis Charter. No wonder they only communicate with each other through their lawyers.


Posted by Too Much misinformation
a resident of another community
on Feb 28, 2018 at 2:31 pm

John,
Like most public schools, charter schools receive funding from the state based on the # of students attending.
From www.edsource.org:
"Charter schools are public schools that get funding from the state and have greater flexibility in hiring, curriculum, management and other aspects of their operations. Unlike traditional public schools that are run by school districts with an elected school board and a board-appointed superintendent, most charter schools are run by organizations with their own self-appointed boards.

In general, this independence gives charter schools more room to experiment and to come up with instructional and other innovations. That was one of the chief reasons California lawmakers passed a law in 1992 allowing charters to operate. California was the second state to pass legislation allowing charters (Minnesota was the first)."


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