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Students march against DACA repeal

Original post made on Sep 27, 2017

More than 100 student protesters marched through Mountain View on Wednesday with a clear message: the immigrant community, documented or not, needs to be protected, even if it means fighting President Donald Trump's administration every step of the way.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017, 1:46 PM

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Posted by Mira
a resident of North Bayshore
on Sep 27, 2017 at 2:13 pm

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Posted by juan olive
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 27, 2017 at 2:26 pm


the ones putting and orchestrating these events are to blame, but also are the kids following these leaders. I'm Mexican American and have lived here all my life. The kids should understand what the truth is, read The Presidents tweets if you have too.
The shameless event last week with Nancy Polosi opened my eyes even more as to what they will listen to and from who they choose to listen to it from. THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO REASON OR ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING A DIALOGUE. They want only one thing and that is "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY"

Don't doubt this will be deleted from this fair and balanced Mountain View Voice


Posted by Sarah1000
a resident of another community
on Sep 27, 2017 at 6:32 pm

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Thank you to the staff of LAHS who support our children even on your "own" time. When my daughter was at LAHS and was struggling with health issues, her French teacher offered to come to our home to make sure she could keep up. His words "whatever I can do" literally brought me to tears. You all are the best!


Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 27, 2017 at 8:20 pm

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Great to read that high school students are speaking up. Students should, of course, choose their positions thoughtfully.

Not everyone is "welcome here." Not Russian spies. Not North Korean soldiers. Not Saudi terrorists. Not violent criminals deported by Cuba.

There are over 6 billion persons in the world. How many should move here? All of them?


Posted by LOL
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 27, 2017 at 9:11 pm

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I dunno, Gary, but I'll take all these kids and toss you out, and consider it a net positive. We'll worry about the numbers later.


Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 27, 2017 at 11:35 pm

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Posted by LOL
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 28, 2017 at 8:45 am

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Posted by CLK
a resident of another community
on Sep 28, 2017 at 10:00 am

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As a mother of two 9th graders that participated in the march, I could not have been prouder. My daughters came back to their home in Los Altos, and thoughtfully had a conversation with me about the lack of other Caucasian students participating, including their friends, and shared that "these dreamers are kids we go to school with every day" and there were not nearly enough students taking part in this opportunity! When it was club sign up day "One Dollar for Life" had kids waiting in line to sign up that stretched a block long. I would argue that people need to teach their kids EMPATHY, and that it is a very real crisis at the moment here at home. Families around here are spending $25K to go on a family trip to Kenya for safari and school building so that their kids learn how "good they have it." Yet they have taught them they can't miss the math tutor or soccer practice for something as important as teaching their kids to show up or be good, inclusive people. For GARY... I would say that his literal interpretation of the sign of one student - should more resonate with Lady Liberty's sign "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."


Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 28, 2017 at 10:11 am

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Protests are great. But figure out what you stand for - not just against. As to Mr. Lol who "dunno" what to say, keep dreaming about a world beyond our borders with no criminals, no enemies, no threats to America. Dreaming and LOL.


Posted by Common Sense Too
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Sep 28, 2017 at 12:25 pm

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"If you can be orange, we can be brown." Seriously? This is the best that MVLA School District social studies and language arts has to offer?
That is exactly the type of personal attacks and body shaming that the left is constantly decrying as harmful to political discourse and national dialogs... blah, blah, blah. Illegal immigration, and what to do with the children of people who broke our immigration laws, is a complicated subject.
If students want to protest in favor of open borders or rewarding those who break our immigration laws- it should be done with facts, not nasty, disrespectful comments.


Posted by Jim Neal
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 28, 2017 at 1:13 pm

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Once again we see the same misinformation. Those who are against illegal immigration do not think that all illegal immigrants are "drug peddlers, criminals and rapists". The repeated charge that the President's travel ban is "blocking travel from majority Muslim countries" is misleading and disingenuous. The ban has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the fact that the countries are major sponsors of terrorism, or have failed/weak governments that are so bad that the documents they provide for international travel cannot be trusted as identified by the Obama administration:

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The travel part of Trump’s order does target the same seven countries that were singled out with a law Obama signed in December 2015.

The Obama-signed law contains provisions that restrict travel to the United States for people who lived in or visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria since March 2011. They must have a visa to enter the United States; they can’t use what is known as the Visa Waiver Program, which allows 90-day U.S. visits to other foreign visitors.

The law was soon expanded by Obama’s Department of Homeland Security to cover Libya, Somalia, and Yemen. They were identified in the agency’s announcement as "countries of concern," a phrase used in the law.
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I can't seem to remember the same amount of race-baiting, panic, and vitriol when Obama signed his law into effect.


Getting back to immigration, I still have not heard or read a rational explanation why the United States should be the only country in the world that does not have a border or should refuse to secure it. The idea that anyone should be allowed to come into the country at any time for any reason is ridiculous on the face of it. We have far more security at the airports for people already in the US, than we have at the borders! What sense does that make?

Requiring that people obey the law is not hate, it's common sense. I welcome everyone into my house, ..... AFTER I know who they are. It would be stupid for me to leave my door wide open all the time so that anyone can just walk in whenever they want. Sure 999 of 1000 people might be terrific, but what about the 1 in 1000 who isn't? Should I risk the safety of the others who live in my house because 'most people are good people'?

Let's take a look at Mexico's immigration laws:

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Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society. Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” (Article 34).

Article 37 says foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics.”

• Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country. Article 73 says federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with immigration authorities in assisting with the arrest of illegal immigrants.

• Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned (Article 116).

• Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported and/or imprisoned as felons (Article 117).

• Illegal immigration is a felony (Articles 123, 125).

• Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law. For example, a Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison (Article 127).

Here’s what the Mexican Constitution also says:

• Non-citizens cannot participate in the country’s political life (Article 33). Non-citizens are also forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics.

• There are no equal employment rights to immigrants, even legal ones, in the public sector (Article 32).

• Fundamental property rights are denied to foreigners. Article 27 states: “Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters….”

• An immigrant who becomes a naturalized Mexican citizen can be stripped of his Mexican citizenship if he lives again in the country of his origin for more than five years (Article 37).

• Foreigners may be expelled for any reason and without due process. According to Article 33: “The Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.”
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I wonder how people would respond if the President were to try to adopt Mexico's immigration policy? I'm betting the words xenophobe, racist, bigot, heartless, and unconstitutional would be thrown around and the media would be leading the charge to have him impeached.



Jim Neal
Old Mountain View


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