Town Square

Post a New Topic

Vigil against hate attracts hundreds

Original post made on Aug 14, 2017

Several hundred people marched in a candlelight procession in Mountain View on Sunday night in solidarity against white supremacist and hate groups.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, August 14, 2017, 7:58 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by Amused
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2017 at 11:45 am

[Post removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]


Posted by .... And vote...
a resident of Rex Manor
on Aug 14, 2017 at 2:45 pm

Demonstrations are great. Boring and organizing for political change is where the action really is.


Posted by joe p
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 14, 2017 at 3:13 pm

Hello, Nazis are left wing socialist. I don't understand why press calls them right wing.


Posted by LOL
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 14, 2017 at 4:11 pm

joe p, noted historian, coming out with the likely dumbest, most ahistorical opinion possible.

Leftists and socialists were out in Charlottesville resisting the Nazis. The woman who got killed by that Nazi was a socialist.

Web Link


Posted by swissik
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2017 at 4:34 pm

LOL: Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei = NAZI. Please note the first word. Americans have long had the wrong notion of what NAZI stands for. Hitler wanted to differentiate his party from the Soviet Communist party by creating the above mentioned title.


Posted by LOL
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 14, 2017 at 4:42 pm

swissik,

I don't think you read the article. Then innocent young woman killed by that Nazi was a leftist and a socialist.

Consider your argument as applied to North Korea; it calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, yet none of us would consider it democratic, of the people, or a republic.

The fact is that Nazism is an extreme right-wing ideology that was strongly resisted on Saturday by leftists and socialists.


Posted by Bill Michel
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2017 at 7:08 pm

Yes, terminology can be tricky. I don't really care for "White Nationalist"
either... I mean what "Nation" are these racists from? They talk about
"preserving the white race", and say derogatory things about people of
color, Jews and Women. How about "white bigots"? "Men who didn't learn
manners"? Violent Sociopaths? Take your pick. I think all apply.


Posted by MyOpinion
a resident of Castro City
on Aug 14, 2017 at 8:47 pm

To all who are making irrelevant comments about the political views of the deceased woman....The point is that this violent event was fueled by Trump rhetoric (as noted by David Duke, KKK)...end of story... Trump is a sorry excuse for a POTUS. He needs to go.


Posted by BD
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 14, 2017 at 8:57 pm

Thank you to everyone who showed up. Putting yourself out there on the streets is the best way to show these terrorists they won't win.


Posted by LOL
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 14, 2017 at 9:12 pm

@MyOpinion, I think you may have misunderstood me. I mean both of those terms (leftist and socialist) in a positive manner. These are the people fighting for a better future for all of us against the dangerous ideologies fomenting on the right.

The fact that @joe p and @swissik were trying to smear the woman by calling her a Nazi was a bridge too far for me. She was out there resisting as a proud socialist, and to allow people to equate her beliefs with Nazism would be a disservice to her memory.


Posted by Sorry
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Aug 15, 2017 at 6:34 am

People are looking for society to say "Its OK, I won't think any less of you if you're a racist"
That's not going to happen. The US has far too many caring and good people for that to happen.


Posted by Common sense
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 15, 2017 at 10:13 am

Common sense is a registered user.

A little historical background to the exchange above: Fascism (the literal word, from Italy) and National Socialism (NSDAP) are both explicitly variations on Socialism; all are forms of government deriving from the core idea of forcing the population to conform to behavior deemed enlightened by advocates. In Socialism, that's done in the abstract name of "the people" (in Russian, narod -- whence so many gov't bodies in the old USSR were Narodny This or Narodny That; narodny = "of the people," or "people's" -- down to the grotesque extreme of Narodny Kommissariat Vnutryennikh Del, People's Commisariat for Internal Matters -- Stalin's dreaded secret political police -- all in the name of the people, naturally). Anarchist intellectuals have long pointed out that these political movements claiming to decentralize power into the hands of the "people" regularly achieve exactly the opposite, putting dictatorial authority into the hands of one, or a very few, "people."

Fascism grew avowedly out of Socialism (founding members, such as Benito Mussolini, had been Socialists), rhetorically substituting "the nation" for "the people" (which incidentally also overlaps the use of "narod" by the Russian Communist Party). PBS's TV documentary on Socialism, "Heaven on Earth," interviewed one of the surviving original Italian Fascisti, who said they'd been looking for a philisophical rationalization for their group (intent on seizing power), and found that if they took principles of Marxist Socialism and substituted "the nation" for "the people," they had something that sounded good; by 1922 they controlled Italy.* The later Fascist-inspired parties in Germany (NSDAP, shortened to "Nazi") and Britain (BUF) also followed that example.

"LOL," commenting above, appeared unaware of all of this.

* 'Mussolini asserted that the French Marxist and revolutionary syndicalist Georges Sorel was his "master," who he claimed was instrumental in birthing the core principles of Italian fascism, that eventually "fused socialism with nationalism." Other historians argued that Fascism billed itself "not only as an alternative, but also as the heir to socialism." ' Web Link


Posted by Steve Old Town
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Aug 15, 2017 at 9:12 pm

Steve Old Town is a registered user.

Well done 'Together we will' for publicly standing up against white supremacist and hate groups.

Where were you when this was happening?

Web Link
Web Link

Selective outrage is such a beautiful thing


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

On Wednesday, we'll be launching a new website. To prepare and make sure all our content is available on the new platform, commenting on stories and in TownSquare has been disabled. When the new site is online, past comments will be available to be seen and we'll reinstate the ability to comment. We appreciate your patience while we make this transition..

Stay informed.

Get the day's top headlines from Mountain View Online sent to your inbox in the Express newsletter.