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Teacher home-buying fund gains traction

Original post made on May 30, 2017

A local startup built on the idea that community members can rally together to help teachers buy homes is finally making some headway.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 3:58 PM

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Posted by m2grs
a resident of another community
on May 30, 2017 at 5:23 pm

This is such dimwitted idea. How many teachers the fund can support? What if the teacher changes career and do something else?

The right solution is to issue rent vouchers. Far more teachers will benefit from vouchers. It is also tied to their career in the district. If they don't teach anymore, or move to teach in another school district, they won't get vouchers.

Vouchers provide immediate and fair housing relief to a large number of teachers. A home-buying fund won't go anywhere beyond just a few lucky ones.


Posted by Observer
a resident of Castro City
on May 30, 2017 at 9:53 pm

Hey, looks like the district is trying new ways to address an issue that is not easily solved. This is another good attempt of trying to make a difference in the school district. Keep it up!


Posted by YIMBY
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 31, 2017 at 10:44 am

This is essentially subsidizing a service-class to live in with the locals and better serve them. It's one step removed from feudalism. It's a bandaid over the real problem, which is lack of housing supply overall.


Posted by IVG
a resident of Rex Manor
on May 31, 2017 at 12:40 pm

Unlike a rent voucher, this scheme is totally self-funded.


Posted by Joe
a resident of Rex Manor
on May 31, 2017 at 2:50 pm

Why not a fund for Caregivers, waiters, dry cleaning staff, landscapers... where does it end? Let's just become socialists and get it over please.


Posted by Anke
a resident of North Whisman
on May 31, 2017 at 3:06 pm

@m2grs, you very reasonably ask "What if the teacher changes career and do something else?"

The article didn't address this particular point, but it did mention that co-founder Lofton explained that his company has put a lot of effort into identifying and addressing relevant issues. I imagine the loan contracts cover this topic, perhaps requiring earlier payback if they leave the profession.

Notice that this plan is investor funded, not tax-payer funded. It's essentially a way for investors to choose to invest by lending money to a particular group, in this case teachers.


Posted by James Thurber
a resident of Shoreline West
on May 31, 2017 at 3:44 pm

I found the comment interesting that teachers make enough to pay a mortgage. A mortgage on a $500,000 house. But houses in this area cost well in excess of one million, frequently two or even three times that.

Starting salaries for teachers are in the $50,000 to $60,000 range. Top end just above $100,000 and that's after fifteen or twenty years.

Sorry folks, you can't make a mortgage payment on that salary.


Posted by 500K fund, huh...
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on May 31, 2017 at 4:36 pm

Supposing a teacher wants to buy a typical Mountain View "starter home," a small and fairly crappy 3BR/2Bath in a decent but not fancy neighborhood like say, Monta Loma where houses are selling for $1.8M.


Assuming that this teacher is somehow able to beat out the multiple cash offers said home will receive, this teacher will need to come up with a down payment of at least 20%, or 360,000.

Congratulations, Landed, your $500K fund has helped one teacher buy one house, which will soon be foreclosed upon because there is *no possible way* a teacher can afford the nearly $9000 a month in mortgage payments PLUS pay back that down payment.

This may be another well-intentioned startup organization that just wants to make the world a better place and make a bit of money off the backs of teachers but it makes no sense at all. None. I hope our school board wastes no more time on it.


Posted by Fee structure...?
a resident of Rex Manor
on May 31, 2017 at 4:53 pm

The Voice article does not provide some basic information, such as how "Landed" makes money on this.

Do they charge teachers a percentage of the downpayment secured? The school district? Do they put advertising on the teacher's house? Pop-up ads on their Chrome Books? Do they take a cut of the apples and Amazon gift cards students give them on Teacher Appreciation Day?


Posted by m2grs
a resident of another community
on May 31, 2017 at 4:55 pm

@Anke, thanks for the acknowledgement. However as several comments pointed out the math simply does not add up. There is no way to gather enough private funds to make a real difference.

By the way, teachers in private schools, such as San Francis and Harker, on average make less money than public school teachers, without guaranteed pensions, without union. But they still teach well, as demonstrated by their outstanding outcomes. Their challenge of survival in this area is even harder.


Posted by Juan
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on May 31, 2017 at 7:26 pm

This seems like a good idea on the surface, but how is dual ownership going to work legally? In the event of default, the bank is surely going to get paid first (they won't write the loan otherwise), which leaves the down-payment-provider second in line, fighting for scraps? Doesn't sound like a very safe investment. You're probably better off investing in a REIT.

Also banks want lenders to have skin in the game -- they usually require borrowers to source all funds. I predict most banks won't be happy with a benefactor / investor providing the down payment. It means the borrower has no skin in the game, and thus no incentive to not walk away at the first sign of downturn.


Posted by Teacher
a resident of another community
on May 31, 2017 at 7:29 pm

As a MVWSD teacher who bought a house two years ago, over 20 miles away from where I work, this new plan doesn't make sense, even with a 20% down payment, my husband and I are barely making ends meet on a fixer upper house that cost under $700,000. We have no debt besides our mortgage. Many teachers still are paying off their college tuitions, or enrolling in costly masters programs, that make marginal differences to our salaries.

As others have mentioned no teacher can afford a mortgage on a property in excess of 1 million dollars. The fund will possibly help a handful of teachers, with high earning partners, but It won't really address the issue on the scale that it needs to. Given the burn out and turn over rate of teachers, the potential for a young teacher to quit soon after being helped by this fund is relatively high, especially in MVWSD, where there is enormous staff turn over every year.


Posted by andonandon
a resident of Castro City
on May 31, 2017 at 7:33 pm

So what about grocery workers? They make half what teachers do. Without them you have no food


Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Rex Manor

on May 31, 2017 at 9:26 pm

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?


Posted by timetrip
a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 31, 2017 at 9:59 pm

@Joe: We already are socialists.


Posted by Thoughts
a resident of Castro City
on May 31, 2017 at 10:19 pm

Geez, you all sound like a bunch of people who have just realized that the issue of affordable housing is indeed in crisis mode. Welcome to the reality of the new Mtn. View, where regardless if you are a teacher, firefighter, or middle class the odds are stacked against you for buying a condo, townhouse, let alone a free standing home.

If you think BMR units are making a difference, think again. If you believe affordable housing for East Bayshore will help, . . . you'll have to wait another 10 to 15 years to see if it does, because at this rate nothing is being built over there at such high volume without realistic transportation issues being cleared first. For gripes sake, even the city council got it wrong when they thought with such potential building there would be no increase in kids attending our public schools.

Instead of harping on potential problem solving, come up with a better way to address these issues, roll up your sleeves to figure out how the future can best be handled. Hold on, wait . . . did you hear that? the mic just dropped.


Posted by m2grs
a resident of another community
on May 31, 2017 at 10:32 pm

@Thoughts, the real problem is not housing crisis, it is transportation crisis.

Consider Manhattan. Housing prices there is beyond most workers who work there, including teachers, firefighters, and most office workers. But Manhattan has the most efficient public transportation in this country. People can live far away and still manage to come to work within reasonable and predictable commute time.

Silicon Valley has a transportation crisis. If we solve it we solve the housing crisis.

Any other attempts to build "affordable housing" in hot areas are just futile and waste of public resources.


Posted by Christopher Chiang
a resident of North Bayshore
on May 31, 2017 at 11:02 pm

MVWSD owns property that isn't be used for schools (Cooper Park) and it should strongly explore the potential of adding housing for teachers there. It's been a full year since the district first discussed this, and subsequently tabled because of the controversy of a past trustee's approach to this issue. By the district's own estimates, a modest development could house 1/3 of the district's teachers. Web Link

That's a percent that would have a real impact. And any public housing for teachers should be income based, teachers can make over $40,000 difference based on which local districts they work for, so any housing assistance should be tied to true need.

The state legislature last year did its part to ease the way towards teacher housing. Web Link Other communities are making serious progress. They involve bold coordination and vision by both the city and school district. Schools retaining high quality teachers) play a critical role in a community beyond preparing the youth (a role sufficient in its civic importance), but great schools also play a critical role in determining the home values of a city.

If not Cooper, why not envision BMR designed for public schools teachers as a central public element to housing in North Bayshore?

San Francisco Mayor Commits $44 Million To Teacher Housing Project:
Web Link

SMUHSD Workforce Housing Community Exploration (Supt. Dr. Kevin Skelly):
Web Link


Posted by Parent
a resident of Castro City
on May 31, 2017 at 11:59 pm

I thought the district was already deficit spending? How the heck would the district come up with more cash to build at Cooper? They already have a 40 million COP. I bet the reason this was tabled wasn't because of a past trustee's action, that's giving that person too much credit. Reality is simple, they don't have the funds to do this. Partnerships with city, meh. Unless I missed something, BMR for teachers is already part of development proposals and teachers are high up on the priority lists. I applaud the vision of some suggestions from the links, but the reality for the district is much different.


Posted by Tough Crowd
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Jun 1, 2017 at 3:22 pm

Sad to see so many negative reactions to a creative idea. The alternative is? Oh right, build more housing...that's happening in MV. How's that going in terms of getting teachers (or other mid-income) into home ownership?

I applaud Landed for this effort. A few points for the naysayers:

- It's my understanding Landed covers a 10% down payment, with the homeowner covering 10%.

- The home doesn't need to be in Mtn. View or Los Altos. A starter "home", which could also be a condo or townhome, can be purchased for $750K - $1.5M (or maybe even less...I haven't fully scanned Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, San Jose).

- 10% of that amount would be $75k - $150K (or less).

- The mortgage might not be much different than rent (someone else can do the math). But the down payment is generally the obstacle. And ownership builds equity.

- Landed is just beginning with funding its investor pool. Investors are not investing in teachers. They're investing in local real estate (in a "feel-good" way).

- I don't believe investors need to be individuals; I presume a company like Google would also be welcome.

- Avg teacher salaries in MVLA are not 50-60K.

- Career changes amongst teachers are not frequent. Especially when not done for the purpose of wanting to buy a home.

- I believe teachers are proven to be reliable with paying rents and mortgages.

- This is outside the arm of the school district. No public funds.

- There's no reason other groups couldn't do this as well. But there's probably a limited number of investors...

The Landed folks vetted this very carefully with SEC folks, etc. Sure, they're probably hoping to expand this model and make some $. But I applaud a creative new idea...sure beats griping via keyboard.


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