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Officer injured when suspect hits police car
Original post made on Mar 17, 2017
Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 17, 2017, 1:44 PM
Comments (14)
a resident of St. Francis Acres
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:12 pm
Thank God we have ouR police. All the leftist movement hasn't lessened these determined officers from keeping us all safe.
THANK YOU MOUNTAIN VIEW POLUCE
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:31 pm
No "movement" is concerned with legitimate police work.[Portion removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:38 pm
MVPD does an incredible job keeping the citizens of Mountain View safe. This incident last night is a prime example. The In-n-Out parking lot is ALWAYS busy and this could have gone completely sideways. Because of the officer's & detective's actions, no one was seriously injured or worse. Local police need the support of the communities they serve & protect. Just think about how it would be if they weren't there. Don't break the law. If an officer gives you a command, obey it. They put their lives on the line daily to keep the citizens of Mountain View safe. Appreciate that.
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm
@AntiTroll "legitimate police work" is enforcing all of our laws, not ignoring those (or even flaunting the breaking of those) that have fallen out of favor with one side of the political spectrum.
In any event, glad to hear that these two are off the streets. These QOL crimes are a serious problem in MV/LA.
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:47 pm
@Taxpayer Please list specific laws that someone is encouraging police to ignore and for the citizens to flaunt or break?
Just like everyone else, I commend MVPD on their excellent work here and all around.
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 17, 2017 at 3:21 pm
Greg David is a registered user.
This:
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a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 17, 2017 at 3:43 pm
Randy Guelph is a registered user.
@Greg David,
What specific part of that letter do you disagree with? A quote would be helpful.
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 17, 2017 at 3:57 pm
Greg David is a registered user.
"The agencies of this county will not enforce federal immigration laws"
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 17, 2017 at 4:10 pm
Randy Guelph is a registered user.
@Greg David,
Isn't enforcing federal law the responsibility of the federal government? Congress has not given that power to the states.
If a domestic abuse victim reports that crime to the MVPD, should they check her immigration status?
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 17, 2017 at 4:34 pm
Greg David is a registered user.
Law enforcement officers and agencies have an obligation to the people to cooperate between the local, state, and federal levels. Failure to due so is a dereliction of duty.
Just because an individual is a victim of a crime, it does not excuse them from their own criminal acts. Entering the US illegally is a criminal act.
Its hard to see how many people simply don't understand this. We will never agree and you will always have some comeback, so go ahead and put in your last word.
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 17, 2017 at 4:42 pm
Randy Guelph is a registered user.
@Greg David,
I'm trying to have a conversation and understand your viewpoint, there's no need to be snarky.
How long should MVPD detain people for alleged immigration violations? They don't have the authority to deport people, so they would need ICE to pick up any people.
I'm not saying it excuses anything, but wouldn't it concern you if innocent victims of violent crime cannot look to the people for safety? The perpetrator of that crime will now be walking free, and criminals will know they can prey upon people based on their immigration status. How does that help our community?
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 17, 2017 at 5:51 pm
Greg David is a registered user.
Well, if they weren't here in the first place, they wouldn't be a victim.
MVPD doesn't generally detain anyone beyond initial investigation. That is the job of the county jail. The suspect should be held in county until ICE can take over the investigation. The state and federal governments don't have local detention facilities, so they rely on the county jails.
The victim, who is also a criminal suspect, can be held in jail until their attacker is tried and convicted and then they can be processed for deportation.
Not terribly complex.
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm
Randy Guelph is a registered user.
@Greg David,
How long should county detain them until ICE picks them up?
To your second point, if a victim knows they will be held and deported when they report a crime, why would they report the crime in the first place? Without the community reporting crimes and cooperating with them, MVPD cannot effectively protect the community. By making it unsafe for members of our community to assist the police, you will make the rest of our community unsafe.
Just asserting that something is not complex does not make it so.
a resident of Rex Manor
on Mar 17, 2017 at 10:31 pm
AK is a registered user.
Greg David, you are aware that while "Improper Entry" is a crime, "Unlawful Presence" is not a crime, but a civil matter instead, right? And if someone is present unlawfully, the local police have no idea if they performed an improper entry?
So while generally cooperation between agencies at various levels is a good thing, so is the priority of our local police departments on fighting *crime*, which we are all thankful for.
Thus if you a logical law-loving person, "our officers will not detain or arrest any person on the basis of person's citizenship or status under civil immigration laws" should be something you wholeheartedly agree with, eh? Since it's not a criminal matter, and the local police see it detrimental to fighting crime?
"... have an obligation to the people to cooperate between the local, state, and federal levels. Failure to due so is a dereliction of duty" is a nice black-and-white opinion that you hold. Trust me, I get it. But it's just that, an opinion.
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