I'm hearing big noisy copters making regular rounds very low to the ground. Insufferable. What is this, the new modern police surveillance? MV is pushing so hard to be all modern for the new comers (because they have $$$) that we've lost what we've loved about our city. We are expected to take it: all the noise, traffic congestion, inconveniences, rich young entitled men racing costly new cars between freeway traffic while flipping us off, all of it.

Well don't, and don't leave either. Stand your ground. Speak up along with those who think as you do. Write letters to the papers, pound on city council, select candidates carefully screening for new nonsense ideas of bigger is better when it is just more crowded.

Anyways, to answer your question: I was curious too, I noticed on Waze traffic was okay everywhere except on 237, which was solid red. So my guess was an accident there.

I wssn't sure what was going on with those helicopters, but "Stand Up" sure spoke the truth above...

Rumor had it that the helicopters were trailing Brock Turner's ride from jail to a Palo Alto hotel. The press were at the hotel as well as the jail so it would make sense that the press helicopters were trailing him.

Helicopters near Monta Loma are 95% train fatalities. In this case I believe it was due to Brock Turner's release at 6am 9/1. We heard them between 6:30-7. Having followed the case, it was immediately clear to me what was going on.