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Full steam ahead on park plans and bike improvements

Original post made on Mar 26, 2015

Citing transportation enhancements and environmental sustainability as top key issues last month, the Mountain View City Council took a first step toward re-prioritizing major infrastructure projects for the next five years, including a renewed emphasis on bike and pedestrian improvements and possibly a grade separation for the Caltrain crossing at Rengstorff Avenue.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, March 26, 2015, 11:43 AM

Comments (29)

Posted by bkengland@gmail.com
a resident of Whisman Station
on Mar 26, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Interesting information, though it would have been nice for the headline to say "ped and bike improvements" not just "bike improvements" given what the article talks about.


Posted by Jeff
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 26, 2015 at 2:21 pm

"Council member Lenny Siegel said he had his reservations, and noted that Palo Alto is not going for grade separation." Having lived for many years in PA and now in MV, I would not hold up PA as a model for planning and project management, if that is what Mr. Siegel was saying? The "PA process" has a legacy of long-term-blighted properties, overly-compromised designs, ugly new structures, and epic calendar delays. MV is much more effective and has made better choices (yeah, spare us your well-rehearsed outraged reactions to your pet peeve); one hopes it can stay that way.


Posted by Make parking
a resident of Monta Loma
on Mar 26, 2015 at 2:24 pm

Make parking illegal on Big streets. I was driving out of the complex and because of the cars parked on the street, one needs to go into the bike lane to see if there are any cars coming, to make a right onto the main street. And of course 2 bikers, one on the sidewalk and on in the regular lane. The one coming on the sidewalk went behind me and the one in the street made it by in front of me. Now if we make parking illegal on the big streets, then the bikers will have room to maneuver.


Posted by Progress of our community
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 26, 2015 at 3:09 pm

Whoo-Hoo!


Posted by D
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 26, 2015 at 4:56 pm

So sad the Council didn't vote to pay for the library remodel with City monies. Where else can citizens get a better deal for their money.


Posted by MV Parks and Rec
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 26, 2015 at 10:02 pm

Neighboring cities Los Altos, Palo Alto, and Sunnyvale all have superior parks to Mountain View.

Neighboring cities Los Altos, Palo Alto, and Sunnyvale all have superior adult recreation and enrichment programs to Mountain View.

Can someone please explain why?


Posted by SteveD
a resident of Jackson Park
on Mar 26, 2015 at 11:16 pm

So true the car/biker/pedestrian issue at Moffett and Central Exp. I live only a block away from that intersection and see near-misses there all of the time, sometimes because of actions of drivers and sometimes because of actions of the walkers or riders. It's a bad scene, and a bad accident that's going to happen if something isn't done soon, even if only for a temp. basis until/if Castro is blocked.


Posted by Doing
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 am

@MV Parks and Rec, your statement almost made me spit coffee on my screen. Nobody but yourself can explain why you feel the way you do, but I have some theories.
Meanwhile, MV is getting it done...again.


Posted by @Doing
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 27, 2015 at 9:15 am

Hey coffee spitter!

Which city has FEWER adult rec and enrichment programs than MV?

Which park in MV do you feel is the most beautiful and enjoyable to be in?

If you cannot answer these questions, then you have no business being so drama-queen shocked. Maybe it's time to get out from behind your computer and learn what this region has to offer and how far behind MV is...


Posted by Doing
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 28, 2015 at 7:47 am

So you're here to qualify someone else's personal opinion and then deem it valid or not?
You're funny. You seem angry, with a chip on your shoulder, but you're funny.
And sorry, I will be as drama queen as I want, maybe even MORE than I want, and certainly more than you would want, but that's not my concern.

My opinion is that Cuesta is a lovely park in the early morning mist, as is Shoreline. I also like the sailing and the other boating options at Shoreline. Feel free to get really mad about my enjoyment of these beautiful areas and my personal opinion that MV kicks butt over every bordering city in too many ways to count. I understand it's just your opinion.


Posted by I agree
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 28, 2015 at 11:33 am

This "doing" person must be a city worker. Tried to go use shoreline and there is goose crap everywhere. The fake "lake" there for sailing is disgusting. Toxic I'm sure.

When will this city step up and have better parks and rec?


Posted by resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 28, 2015 at 11:47 am

We prefer the goose crap at Shoreline Park to the dog crap scattered around most other city parks.


Posted by resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 28, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Everything I write is based on goose crap. I have never been to other parks outside our city, but I'm sure ours are better. In fact, I don't go to ours either.


Posted by Do Better
a resident of Bailey Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 6:27 am

What sailing programs are available in Los Altos, Sunnyvale or Palo Alto?
I've yet to hear about why those cities are better, just comments about how MV isn't good. Enlighten us with examples of the good instead of just venting frustration with the bad.


Posted by Steven Nelson
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 9:52 am

If I wanted to live in gated enclaves of only-rich people I'd sell my $1.5 MV 4 bed 3 bath rancher, sell off a $ 1M or so of stocks, and live with the rich(er) only people up toward the hills. And join a country club!
Like a civic-minded fellow I know has said, I'd rather keep my family here, than move to PA (or LA, or LAH). The elected members of the MV City Council do (and have done) a great job in prioritizing civic spending (taxpayer - financed). Keep on it elected Council!


Posted by Ex-Pat
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 10:30 am

Steven, you're spot on. The most obvious difference, and it is an enviable one, is the sense of community in most all of the MV neighborhoods. Civic minded people who not only care about the schools and community, but are INVOLVED and volunteer their time to continually better those things. To me PA seemed mercenary with everyone there because of the reputation of the schools(now, yikes!) but not really getting involved. There was more of an expectation that someone else will do whatever needs to be done. I agree, MV is full of get it done type of people and it seems to only be getting better as people seek out that type of civic involvement. We're happier here in MV, it's really been lovely with no regrets at all, 3 years and counting.


Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Mar 30, 2015 at 10:44 am

MV Park and Rec could always use more improvements in a ever changing city with a ever changing population. Classes, play and sports are vital to a well being of the community.


Posted by Puddles
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 1:16 pm

I'm excited about the new bike improvements. Thanks Mountain View!


Posted by Yup
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 2:23 pm

I'm glad you numbskulls are proud that MV spends the least on public parks vs our neighbors. Keep that civic pride coming! The property developers love you for it!

Pave it all over. Uses less water and saves taxpayer funds. Win-win!


Posted by Then it is decided!
a resident of Bailey Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 2:41 pm

You're glad, we're glad. Sounds like all is good in the hood. Smiles all around on a gorgeous Bay Area day. Enjoy! :)


Posted by Then it is decided!
a resident of Bailey Park
on Mar 30, 2015 at 2:45 pm

Still waiting to hear about what you consider GOOD though. Please...let your sunny side shine with something positive about those other cities now. See if you can do it without a single negative thing being said about MV.
Something like "The redwood grove in Los Altos is a gem"
Give it a try, you'll see!


Posted by OldMV
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 30, 2015 at 5:46 pm

I support new parks and existing park improvements unreservedly. Maybe we can condemn all of our trailer parks and substandard apartment units to create mini-parks in neighborhoods that need them. MV would be far better off with those parks than with their inferior housing and tenants.

As for so-called bike improvements, I’m totally opposed unless they are on totally dedicated bike trails. Bikes are a huge problem because they are totally incompatible with both automobiles and pedestrians, and many of their riders are far too dangerously ignorant and aggressive, both commuters and school kids. I support bike improvements as long as they have absolutely NO impact upon vehicular traffic, parking, or pedestrian safety in MV. We already have too many vehicular traffic problems. Bicycle traffic is such a huge problem that it should be at the bottom of the list of MV’s priorities. It just doesn't belong on major MV streets. That’s simple Common Sense 101.


Posted by True
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 30, 2015 at 6:47 pm

True is a registered user.

Reminding @OldMV (again) that the CA Vehicle code disagrees with his unhinged anti-cycling rants:

..the CA vehicle code stands in stark opposition to your assertion that bikes shouldn't share the road with cars. CVC 21200 CVC 21202, CVC 21650, CVC 21650.1 CVC 21202 (a)(3), CVC 21656

You're wrong sir.

Again.


Posted by OldBen is back
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Mar 31, 2015 at 6:28 am

So while OldMV tries to rewrite the vehicle code to suit his personal preferences, the rest of us will move forward with the new improvements. Changes are never easy, especially for our elderly population but in time things work out. I'm sure when MV put up it's first traffic signal, someone said OK, as long as it doesn't interfere one bit with hose and buggy traffic.


Posted by anthodyd
a resident of St. Francis Acres
on Mar 31, 2015 at 10:52 am

I'm an old-time resident (35 yrs) and can only marvel at the radical changes that have befallen this fair city. I am not a user of parks, and will decline comment, but consider bike trails to be potentially a future resource for urban transport. Some reasonable measure to reduce motor vehicle pre-eminence should be a future concern.
There could be improvement (tho I would guess it's coming) to identify and guide cyclists about MV. I trust such is under consideration in the newest plan, perhaps emphasis on the Stevens Creek (nice) trail, an attractive route for future commuters from Sunnyvale and even Cupertino.
Should we not eye the future (5-8 years) in an attempt to consider how to accommodate the estimated 30K+ new workers, equivalent to a minor city, in the North Bayshore area? The Google buses are simply short-term measures, limited in their capacity to offer any but their well-paid employees a trouble-free commute. I propose that our vision should expand to emphasize mass-transit (rail, light rail, and city buses) and to introduce "ultra-lite" transit consisting of pod cars capable of being linked up in busy periods and running independently in the off-hours along raised dedicated roadways to free up our already congested surface streets. There seems to be potential to allow bike/pedestrian traffic to proceed safely on such roadways, when the powered vehicles are electric/automatic operating at lower speeds and limited access.
Let us trust that our current water-supply issues will still be present in the future, but that we can prevail without the "Cadillac Desert" syndrome affecting us in any major way. "Where there is a future, there is hope."


Posted by resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 31, 2015 at 2:00 pm

There are discussions on extending the Stevens Creek Trail through Sunnyvale to Cupertino. I understand that Cupertino is enthusiastic, but Sunnyvale is stalling the whole project. Here is a news article from the Mercury-News: Web Link

Of course, not everyone lives or works adjacent to the Stevens Creek Trail, so we also need a network of safe bicycle routes connecting neighborhoods and business districts to the trail.


Posted by FULL STEAM AHEAD!
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Mar 31, 2015 at 4:34 pm

WOO-WOOOOOO! This town is killin' it!


Posted by Commuter
a resident of Shoreline West
on Mar 31, 2015 at 11:18 pm

Forbid on street parking on California Street & there's a safe a safe cycling route. I completely agree with Make parking that the current situation is dangerous and its the main reason I commute Mountain View to Mountain View in a car instead of a bike. We all ready have California street cleared on some Mondays for street cleaning.

I don't understand how lantham/church as a 'bike blvd' will be any safer with all the cars parked on those streets just waiting for a cyclist to get doored.


Posted by Tony
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Apr 2, 2015 at 1:03 pm

As a driver, walker, and biker its more important than ever that are streets are multi-modal and accommodate more democratic use in and around Mountain View. Road diets have proven time and time again to reduce congestion and safety for everyone.


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