Jessie - yup.

hopefully with the rising rents these scumbags can all move further south. three cheers for gentrification!!!

Anytime you see scumbags gathered/hanging out in public areas, call the cops and leave an anonymous tip of gang activity occurring. as private citizens, we can flick the light on and watch the cockroaches scurry for cover.

These young men are at the development stage of learning how to socialize.

We could help them get out of gangs and learn to play well with others - or we could incarcerate them, because we're mad at them. If we incarcerate them, they will learn how to socialize in jail/prison.

When they are released from jail/prison, gang fights will be the least of our worries.

"These young men are at the development stage of learning how to socialize."

No, a 13 or 15 year old is at the developmental stage of learning how to socialize. These guys are 20. At 20 I was working my butt off at 2 jobs waiting tables and making coffee at a coffee shop while putting myself through college. No time for hanging out and throwing bottles at people while I "learn to socialize".

When we continue to make excuses for bad behavior, we don't do our children any favors.

@Mother Mary:

"These young men are at the development stage of learning how to socialize."

Irrelevant.

They're still adults and responsible for their actions, whether they are immature or not. Note that teens can be tried as adults at the discretion of the D.A., so being underage doesn't automatically grant a kid permission to being a jerk wad.

"Old enough at 20" is right.

Note that most of these kids that are in this type of trouble at this age are repeat offenders. They aren't children.

The whole point of the penal system is to protect "society". The best way to protect is to rehabilitate. If the DA (and judge) believes the best way to rehabilitate is to keep them in the juvenile system, then that's what they do. If they feel that rehabilitation is not possible or likely, then trying them as an adult may happen, simply to keep them locked up longer.

It's really silly to watch Mtn View residents say goofy things like: "Note that most of these kids that are in this type of trouble at this age are repeat offenders. They aren't children. " or "When we continue to make excuses for bad behavior, we don't do our children any favors. "

Putting a kid in the juvenile system is a very serious step. It is not something that ANYONE wants to have happen to themselves or their children. Kids that come out of juvenile have a chance at a life. Those that enter the adult system have very little chance at a life. Branded as felons, they are unlikely ever to get a decent job. While in prison, they are likely to either be brutalized or to be influenced to brutalize others. When they come out, they are more likely to commit crimes.

These are all facts. Law and Order types are all about revenge, not justice. Ignore them please.

I'm all for the juvenile being sent to juvenile hall, if the D.A. thinks it's the best solution for the kid to turn around his life.

As for the two 20-year-olds, they are adults. Let the judicial system handle them.

The area around Castro School isn't quite "changed" but is definitely on the brink. Still get dayworkers hanging out at the 7-11 at latham and escuela all the time.

but a lot more "Caucasian" people in the area, looks like mostly people with toddlers. I'm guessing the new apts and the natural increase in rent is changing the area... might spread down Escuela to that Higdon/Dayworker Center area.

(BTW we all know that dayworker center is really the 2nd choice -if that- to the 7-11 on latham. And then the other one, Rengstorff at Latham is the wanna be gang member 7-11

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