Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
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New teaching system a hit
Original post made on Mar 20, 2012
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
Comments (12)
a resident of Monta Loma
on Mar 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Voice: For a very different perspective on EDI, interview a cross-section of teachers but withhold their names from publication. You need to understand that the MV-Whisman district is very political and teachers have to be very careful about what they say publicly.
a resident of Monta Loma
on Mar 20, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Another boondoggle by the district to replace the last three pet projects of the superintendents. All the studies say EDI is the least effective teaching method out there. Yes, having individual white boards in math is a great idea, but that is not what EDI is. Ask the kindergarten teachers about EDI...
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 20, 2012 at 3:59 pm
It's the flavor of the week and nothing more. The district must think we are all morons.
a resident of Rex Manor
on Mar 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Oh please!: would you please link to the studies you cite? A casual Google search didn't turn anything up for me.
a resident of Rex Manor
on Mar 20, 2012 at 5:06 pm
WOW... What a concept... a Teacher actually learning which students ar doing well, and which ones are not doing well.
Individual responsibility ??? HEY.. that is NOT an SEIU concept.. what goes here ?
I'm sure glad that tomorrow's surgeons and engineers will learn how to use a white board... Go for it MVWSD....
It makes no teacher responible for the student's scores, and brings the basic Socialist idea of "conformity" and mass learning to the fore.
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 20, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I would just like to know what has been going on in the classroom up until now? Nothing?
"Teachers all over the district have reported a significant increase in student engagement and interest in lessons." Is this quantifiable? If so, how? And when Goldman says "there are signs all around that his school district has been re-energized" how is that quantified? What criteria was measured to come up with such a statement? Or is the data driven decision making the district was selling a few years back now been thrown out the window?
So now we have a "highly systematic approach" in the classroom whereas before it was just chaos? So are we looking at teaching from a system of systems approach? Or is this replacing Ghysels' corporate approach to teaching whereby the students were stakeholders with decision making authority?
It sounds to me that all this mumbo jumbo is nothing more than an attempt to get pay raises all around for the administrators. Haul out a new label for teaching the old fashioned way, dress it up in fancy terms with acronyms, and then claim that it has improved learning and test scores.
It's just utter nonsense.
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Mar 20, 2012 at 8:59 pm
My child's teachers have been using individual white boards for at least 2 years already before the "new" system was brought to the district. The idea of calling on all students rather than letting the air time be hogged by the students who already know all the answers sounds like it is simply the way teachers would deal with that issue. All I know is that the EDI program has eaten up a ton of professional development time for teachers and has pulled them out of the classroom periodically on regular class days for training.
How does the EDI program dovetail with the Khan Academy math instruction pilot programs that are also going on in the district? That's a totally different approach - individualized learning, on-line and taken at a kid's own pace with the teacher becoming a mentor and guide of small groups of students who need specific skills reviewed or taught. Quite the opposite of instructing the entire large group on a scripted math lesson and using white boards to see which kids get it or not.
a resident of Waverly Park
on Mar 21, 2012 at 8:16 am
Great point, MV parent.
And the district's response... duh, duh, duh, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 21, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Observer, "nothing" pretty much sums up what happens in my sons class room this year.
I would love to see a breakdown of how the district spent the 1 million from Google. The article states that the EDI program was taught to a group of teachers who then "passed on their knowledge" to other teachers until all had "at least a working understanding of the system". Seems like that million could have gone to something that would actually benefit the students.
a resident of Whisman Station
on Mar 22, 2012 at 1:31 pm
If Craig Goldman thinks this is such a great program, than he should go into the classroom for 6 hours and teach this new great program. The Google grant could have been used for WAY better things in the schools such as Art and Music programs, teacher salary increases, replace portables with actual classrooms, multi use rooms to be remodeled for better use of space. The district officials need to put their words to good use and become teachers for a day. Then we will see how excited they are after others come into the classrooms and belittle their teaching.
a resident of Waverly Park
on Mar 25, 2012 at 7:19 am
A ProQuest search on "Explicit Direct Instruction" turns up only two recent research articles, both dissertations, both examining the impact of EDI on closing the achievement gap (Latino v White) in a California school. Both show that EDI was useful in these case studies.
Key research by major names in the field of English-learning (Krashen, Cummins, Dutro, etc) shows that much more than just explicit instruction is needed for students to authentically acquire the kind of academic language they need to succeed in school. But- it's a start.
My personal experience using EDI techniques tell me that it's useful in a large classroom- trying to make sure the kids are all participating in a whole-group lesson, for example. However, EDI should only be one tool in a teacher's "bag of tricks" to keep the classroom moving forward. I hope that's the real implementation.
a resident of another community
on Jul 31, 2013 at 8:53 am
I would like to see a random number of parents being picked to step into the shoes of the teachers for a day and live their world. Having the students informed of them being a sub for the class. Teach the lesson left for the day, observe children in their school setting. Ans not in your own childs class either. How much time and effort do you as parents put into your childs learning? Try to observe and listen in the eyes of your own childs needs. Don't always leave it up to underfunded schools and the teachers who are atleast trying to educate our children. Its all about people working together to find solutions, community learning, visual learning, and participation....active not verbal.
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